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Subj: Re: What confuses me is...
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 at 06:36:24 am EST (Viewed 65 times)
Reply Subj: Re: What confuses me is...
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 at 06:37:37 am EST (Viewed 89 times)
Quote:Villains who kill get put in jail (or, ridiculously a psych ward) very soon after the killing, generally speaking. (No need to trot out the story in 1976 when this didn't happen.) My big problem with the Joker is that he gets away with far too many murders. Where the Joker is concerned, justice does not reign. This is why I hate Joker stories.
I think the Joker as a character is over used to the point of dullness, however, the actual nature of what they do to villains on Gotham is fascinating to me.
Putting them in for medical treatment on the face of it is not ridiculous. That is a valid way to stop some criminals.
But, for Gotham? Very likely.
People make the point that Batman should kill Joker. Even aside form the obvious montary lo9ss, that is ridiculous.
Batman, acts responsibly. He he stops Joker, and hands him over to the courts. That is what happens with citizen arrests. There is even, apparently, a legal president so such villains can go on trial.
It is the citizens of Gotham (both legal professionals and normal folk) who bare any responsibility for Joker's death.
The Joker (or any Bat-villain) his the right to a trial. Bruce Wayne is still a part of society, and society makes certain rules.
Why do the people of Gotham keep sending him to Arkham? Arkham is a government run (or at least assisted) organization, why not vote to give more funding for security or better treatment?
The want for a superhero to kill a threat outright, is a desire to have an action taken or you, but with you barring no responsibility.
To me, this is a pretty interesting basis for many potential stories. Even just background.
To me this is the crux of why the elements you talk about (when used by thoughtful individuals) can be okay, to me. They crack open deeper layers of the human condition, that you can build on. Even help shed a light on truths to a larger populace.
Take your example of rape. The might me controvertial, but I think rape is a horrible, and vile crime. It effects people of all sorts deeply. Sometimes for years or decades afterwards. If the writer is skilled and thoughtful, they can help bring those stories, which should be told, to the people.
The superhero element even adds a certain element. Rape, child abuse, drug and alcohol abuse, all of what you mentioned are real parts of society, and they can get pretty dark. This is despite there being ways t stop it, these problems still exists, it show that in the end it is up to the individual to look out and (as superheroes often do) be our brothers keeper, and be vigilant if we want our world to be a better place.
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