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Subj: Re: What really happened to Johnny Blaze's children?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 10:29:42 am CST (Viewed 119 times)
Reply Subj: What really happened to Johnny Blaze's children?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 09:01:49 am CST (Viewed 125 times)

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Ok I've been reading Ghost Rider titles a bit lately and Johnny Blaze's children have this annoying habit of disappearing.

Soon after Johnny Blaze meets his half brother Danny he ships the kids off with some friends of his from the Quentin Carnival. But it turns out those friends were part of an evil cult run by a member of the Blood (or was it the Fallen...I thought the Blood were the good ones). Johnny learns his wife Roxanne Simpson bartered her future children's souls away to this Blood guy called Regent so she could be with Johnny. Anyway Johnny saves them all yadda yadda.

A short time later Anton Hellgate kills Roxanne and the children seemingly vanish off panel with no explanation leading Johnny on a quest to find them. In the Blaze ongoing series Johnny finds out the kids were stuck in another dimension with this demon named Baal and some Native American kid named Jesse Pinto. At the end of the series Blaze reunites with Craig and Emma and decides to take in Jesse Pinto. (but I don't think we EVER see Jesse again).

Some time later Johnny pops back up in Danny's life and in Ghost Rider #74 he's somehow lost the kids again. The Danny Ketch Ghost Rider series ends with Roxanne turning out to be alive as some villain named Black Rose whose personality had been altered by Blackheart (thus kind of stuff happens to her a lot...she and Johnny used to think she was this lady named Katy Milner until she magically turned back into Roxanne).

Several years later there's a Ghost Rider mini that shows Roxanne and the kids come back from the dead as ghosts to motivate Blaze or something. But none of them should even be dead right? And shouldn't at least one of these kids be destined to get a piece of the medallion of power and become a Ghost Rider?

I think it is safe to say that the Medallion of Power and Blaze's kids being heirs to the power of the Rider has been tossed out.

Howard Mackie started those plot threads and they were not finished before he left the 90's book.

The 12 issue Blaze series started off good but then disintegrated long before it was ended. his kids were dimension hopping with a Wendigo as I recall. I think they were briefly reunited before cancellation but can't recall.

Blaze does turn up in the 90's series again when Ivan Valez Jr was writing it, who was ignoring and undoing everything Mackie did by the way. He was seeking his kids and never did find them.

GR frees Black Rose from Black Heart and restored her to being Roxanne and gave her back to Blaze in the long lost issue 94 that was finally printed before the first GR movie was released. It was not printed back in the day as marvel was near bankruptcy.

Before the first GR movie it had been decided to restore Blaze as GR and we had the nonsense mini series GR Hammerlane which reactivated Zarathos within Blaze and they had to come to terms. Minimal mention of Ketch or Roxanne and the kids.

Then came the next GR series which established that Blaze had been missing from the MU for a few years due to being dead and in hell due to the fact that despite beating the devil back in his original series, his soul was still due. He gets free, Ketch eventually returns and there is a war for heaven and we see that Roxanne and the kids are in heaven.

We also get the implication that even though Blaze saved Heaven and learned that all the Riders are agents of Heaven and God's wrath that his soul might still be heading south when he dies again.

So basically the writers and editors decided that the character's family was a tangled mess and killed them. Ketch is still around, allegedly depowered again but then again he is apparently considered the pariah/excuse for the 90's comics implosion.

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