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Reverend Meteor

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Grey Gargoyle

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Subj: Re: In my opinion, nothing precise was ever really planned from the start ...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 03:26:09 pm EST (Viewed 128 times)
Reply Subj: In my opinion, nothing precise was ever really planned from the start ...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 at 10:07:27 am EST (Viewed 135 times)




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    (1) The out of the blue return of the previously believed to be dead Spider Clone who happened to have had an epistolary relationship with Aunt May for years.



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    (2) The unresolved mystery of the skeleton of another dead Spider Clone which may suggest that Ben Reilly wasn't the same clone than the one who died in the 1970s story.



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    (3) The revelation that Kaine is a Spider Clone failed prototype who tried to kill at the same time Spider-Man's main rogues gallery (because he is a precog and one of them might kill MJ in the future) and Ben Reilly (because he believes that Peter Parker is his clone brother and he doesn't want Ben Reilly to replace him).



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    (4) The mysterious come-back of the Jackal as a green werejackal without any real explanation about Miles Warren's previous Carrion experiments.



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    (5) The unexplained mystery of the degeneration of the Jackal's clones (a rip-off of the Blade Runner Replicants ?) whereas the cloning technology previously used by Doctor Doom, Arnim Zola & Mister Sinister worked just fine.



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    (6) Traveller & Scrier, two deus ex machina mystical characters who wasted their free time watching what happened to Peter Parker & Ben Reilly.



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    Et cetera (I am far from exhaustive).



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    Oh my god, it is so sad that I can still remember so much of this mess in 2017 ... \:\-\(



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    Frankly, it is obvious that it was automatic writing.
    They were inventing this thriller as it went along.
    They had absolutely no idea what they were doing, where they were going and how they would end this storyline.
    The only thing that mattered was that the storyline was selling books at a time when the comics' decline in sales started.


The sad thing is I thought the early parts were good. Power and Responsibility and Web of Life were good IMO. It was when Kaine, Jackal, Spidercide got added that it got worse and it devalued both Ben and Peter. That original angle where Spider-Man was running away from being Peter Parker while this clone wanted nothing more than to have that life that Peter wanted to walk away from was interesting to me. And Ben just sort of had a unique perspective. He wasn't the original and he wasn't some clone who had just recently been created. He had 5 years living in exile and his life revolved around protecting someone else's identity. He was beholden to a guy who didn't know he was still alive and that really wouldn't appreciate it if he knew. That original angle for him worked really well. It's when they tried to make him the real Peter that they screwed up Ben or when they introduced other clones. He was great as the one clone who had to live 5 years knowing that and still finding a way to carve out a life for himself.


If the second clone saga had kept Ben as the clone and as the ONLY clone I don't think Ben would have been unpopular.