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Reverend Meteor

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Grey Gargoyle

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Subj: Re: So if Baby May never existed...
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 at 03:07:18 pm EST (Viewed 348 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So if Baby May never existed...
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 at 01:09:10 pm EST (Viewed 372 times)




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      baby May still happened and was still taken away by Osborn. Even though it doesn't make sense now that MJ would be pregnant and carry Peter's kid and yet not marry him.



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      But Mephisto did show them as he started the Mephisto Mindwipe that had they stayed married they would have had another kid.



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      But again, per Joe Q the so called mastermind behind the Mephisto Mindwipe: "It's Magic! We don't have to explain it!"



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      Now....if over the years and in recent issues they had not had Mephisto appear again to taunt Peter a bit they COULD have retconned this away using Immortus as the true villain and he just impersonated Mephisto. Or Immortus manipulated Mephisto or used a Space Phantom in the form of Mephisto.



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      Immortus could have somehow seen a future where Peter and MJ having kids would be bad for whatever reason and thus sought to nullify the marriage via time warp and yet used his temporal powers to ensure that all events still somehow happened to eliminate the paradox effect.



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      Now however, I would expect Peter to finally figure things out and have a confrontation with Mephisto and get the marriage restored, however doing so may cost him aunt May. But perhaps he will still take the risk and his "faith" and heroism would be rewarded by the heavens with Aunt May still being alive.



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    The main problem is that the Marvel board had a cowardly behaviour with the fate of their flagship character.



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    I can understand that Marvel prefers a single Spider-Man but this silly story was certainly not the way to do that ...



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    Normally, MJ & Peter should have divorced after the death of baby May.
    It doesn't always happen but it is a coherent motive for divorce in real life.
    While it would have been totally unfair for Peter to deal with that, it is still because of the war between Spider-Man & Green Goblin that the corpse of the baby disappeared. The birth might also have been difficult because of Spider-Man's unique biology.
    So, even if MJ might still love Peter, this is the kind of event that could have led to a divorce.



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    Instead, we had hocus pocus with Mephisto.


I think blaming the death of baby May for a divorce would only work if they had paved the way for that back when it actually happened. But a) their story picked up like a month after the baby "died" and they were mostly through the grieving process and b) the dead baby ultimately made their marriage stronger not weaker. They went through the horror of it together at the same time they lost Ben Reilly.

If Peter had neglected MJ and the baby died as a result of his preoccupation with being Spider-Man I could see that driving a wedge between them. But Norman made Peter just as much of a victim as MJ drugging Peter while MJ was in labor and Peter seeing Ben get killed like he did. I think MJ would be pretty crappy to want to break up with Peter after Ben's sacrifice and just the sheer trauma Peter went through losing Ben and the baby and to then lose the marriage.


The sad fact is it wasn't easy to extricate Peter from the marriage. Peter and MJ had a strong marriage that survived a dead baby, the death of relatives, stalkers, MJ's smoking habit, Peter's career, a lack of money. They were just not that easy to break up IMO. MJ was just a damn good wife all in all.