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Subj: Re: Action Comics #987 and Wonder Woman Annual #1 *SPOILERS*
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 at 03:48:03 am EDT (Viewed 74 times)
Reply Subj: Action Comics #987 and Wonder Woman Annual #1 *SPOILERS*
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 at 03:03:45 am EDT (Viewed 104 times)



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    It has been my understanding the Superman currently appearing in the books is the pre-Flashpoint version of the character, brought to this universe via some wibbly-wobby-comic-book-science, and having stepped into the shoes of the New 52 Superman who shuffled off to the great beyond. So, the first question is, am I incorrect in that understanding?


That was true until the "Superman: Reborn" arc, but not anymore.


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    Second, this story, set in the early days of all the characters, ostensibly features that pre-Flashpoint Superman. So how does that fit with the question above when given a linear timeline, he would not have been operating as Superman when Diana debuted.


At the end of "Superman: Reborn", there was a continuity reboot where history was rewritten. Now the New 52 Superman never existed, this Superman was always the one and only Superman, and their histories have been combined and integrated. The flashbacks in Wonder Woman Annual #1 take place in this new, rewritten timeline.


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    Following up from that, who knows there was a Superman, and now a different Superman? And two Loises (Loisi?)? Everyone? Just the Justice League? Select villains? It seems like a pretty big thing to just slip beneath Luthor's radar. What about Lois' family? Does Sam Lane know the Lois Lane trotting around Metropolis isn't "his" daughter?



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    (And related to that, in a way, during Johns' run, Superman revealed his identity to Jimmy. And then after I dropped the books, Lois revealed Superman's identity to the world. How has all of that been handled with the "old" Superman taking up the role again?)


The New 52 Superman died, Lex Luthor announced his death to Metropolis, and then the Pre-Flashpoint Superman appeared in Metropolis, much to everyone's surprise. The world knew the Superman they've always known is dead, but now there's a new Superman in town. No one knows who he is or where he came from, but they know he's a different person from the now-deceased Superman.

At the same time, a human version of Clark Kent suddenly turned up in Metropolis. This Clark looks exactly like the Clark everybody knew, but he was fully human, believes he's always been human, and started telling everyone that he was never Superman and the whole thing was a hoax.

Around that time, the New 52 Lois developed superpowers of her own. And then she died. And then the Pre-Flashpoint Lois decided to take over her identity and job at the Daily Planet.

Then "Superman: Reborn" happened, the truth about the human Clark was revealed, and then none of this ever happened.


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    And all of this leads me to question the Mr. Oz revelation -- but again, I've not read the issue but I realize this probably wasn't answered there, so consider this rhetorical for now -- but is this pre-Flashpoint Jor-El or New 52 Jor-El?


That hasn't been explained yet.


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