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Subj: Re: Do you think DOOMSDAY CLOCK will address Pre-Crisis Superman?
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 at 11:16:55 am EDT (Viewed 38 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Do you think DOOMSDAY CLOCK will address Pre-Crisis Superman?
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 08:27:57 am EDT (Viewed 49 times)

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Those are all very good points, and I agree with them fully for the most part. We're at a curious point in Superman mythology where after various (discarded) revamps the character is straddling a line between the pre-1986 era and the post-1986 landscape; there is a good deal of circumstantial evidence that he could traverse into deep space again for example, but no writer/editor wants to admit to or develop that possibility. Instead he is limited to earth in the same way he was post-1986. There is a clear evidence of his ability to build complex technology (The Phantom Zone projector), but no writer or editor wants to develop this latent gift for scientific/engineering genius. Perhaps worst of all as you say is the Fortress of Solitude, once a second home, a visual marvel filled with wonders, now diminished to a shapeless ill-defined bolthole lost in the artic wastes. These three points are what help to seperate the Superman before 1986 from the one that came after, and yet despite a shift back to the traditional props of the Pre-Crisis none of them seem to be being fully embraced and exploited. It does feel an odd situation...

One thing that strikes me about the current "Jor-el survived" plot is that by having Jor the scientist about to tread the earth, and quite possibly be more powerful/able than Superman himself, there is unintentionally the return of the Pre-Crisis Superman. The scientist Superman. Or rather the ingenious Superman. The one who would use his powers in imaginative and novel ways, or fall back on his huge well of scientific know-how to help resolve a particular problem.
I have respect for both these era's of Supermen, but at this point in time I do share in your view that it is past time that these limitations placed on the character thirty years ago were confronted and a meeting point between the treatments found. To his credit Dan Jurgens seemed to acknowledge the problems in holding on to the 1986 treatment early in his current run on Action Comics, the final battle against Doomsday being a case in point, then there was the implied fact that General Zod and family actually flew to another distant world shortly after... and yet the character and his capabilities are doggedly still being adhered to in the very same way as the post-Crisis Man of Steel.

I do suspect the simple truth of the matter is that that is all writers today know however... no one knows how to write a Superman who is very clever, very able, and very much aware of out there.


It should have been PC Supes as Oz, not Jor el...


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