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Subj: Re: I Asked Something Like That Already Once. I'm Surprised That He Hasn't Really Done Anything.
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 at 07:21:11 pm EDT (Viewed 33 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I Asked Something Like That Already Once. I'm Surprised That He Hasn't Really Done Anything.
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Those are certainly seen as valid motives and impulses yes, the characterisation and origins of Victor Von Doom owe a great debt to the Superman mythos as quite clearly the early years of he and Reed Richards evoke the early years of Luthor and Superboy, and the accident that tips that relationship into a gradual lifelong obsession and hatred.
Doctor Doom's motivations were primarily the lust for power, of one sort or another, and his various schemes to acheive that end. Luthor on the other hand was solely fixated solely on defeating/Killing Superman, the undefeatable alien do-gooder, and the depths of that psychosis would see him go from being willing to annihilate a whole city with a Nuclear bomb to keep Superboy at bay, to potentially destroying the earth itself by the time the Crisis came. If he had any other ambition or goals than the subjugation of Superman they remained unexplored, some texts suggested he might finally turn his mind to the good of the world if he could ever dispose of his Superman obsession, but it was the depths and unwavering dedication to that obsession that the best writers would make a virtue of the character. For under writers like Elliott Maggin Luthor was a character who was given a surprising depth and complexity. A level of which that made perfect sense of his single mindedness regarding Superman, and hinted at a damaged wounded man who might well become the finest of humanity if he could ever reconcile that hatred and obsession.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that since the Crisis revamped both the characters pasts and present relationships a lot of the power and complexity that underlined Luthor originally has gradually been ebbing away. With various restarts and a now muddled continuity it is hard to be sure of just what does make Lex Luthor tick in 2017. Of course one could say the same about Doctor Doom, the Doom seen today bears no relation at all to the Doctor Doom of just three years ago, not for me at least. This is another character altogether. In regards to luthor however the causes of his current malaise are more to do with successive rebootings muddling the established continuity of the character and the resultant loss of focus on just what it is that drives Luthor. Is it global domination he wants the most? Or Is it Superman humiliated and/or dead? Or is t that Superman is merely in the way of his quest for the former...?

Today his motives really are no longer clear. And yes, i do miss the sheer singe-mindedness and psychosis of the Luthor of old. There was always the air of the near mythical in the Superman/Luthor feud, a fearsome David versus Goliath parable in how tirelessly this puny mortal man would never stop trying to achieve his foolish, seemingly futile, objective in humbling this almighty godlike figure from the stars, - because only he could do it. And as I have said before, there is only Scott Lobdell who understood any of this... \(fear\)






    Quote:
    'When Caesar began to amass dangerous power Brutus found the moral strength to stop him. When armies of procreating humanoids of various states of development moved to overrun the habitable areas of the Eastern hemisphere and compete with each other for food, there arose homo-sapiens with their wheels, their tools and their weapons to subjugate the land and take the future for their own.
    When a Super-powered alien brought his hyperactive sense of propriety across the heavens in order to cram it down the gullets of perfectly capable, sentient Terrans, there came Luthor, a creative marvel who alone among the human community was capable of keeping that self-important cape-waving, pork-face in his place. Luthor saw himself, as he saw Lincoln,, Brutus and the inventor of the wheel before him, to be an integral part of the inexorable eddies and currents of the universe. He was a product of natural law.
    For every social force, Luthor thought, there is an equal and opposite social force to balance it. Maybe that was the universal law he had in mind. Maybe it was that simple.
    In every one of the hundreds of biographies of the man that Luthor read before he was old enough to balance an Oxydisation-reduction reaction, he found that Einstein would approach each new problem of physics in the same way. Evidently the old man would sit back in his chair, close his eyes and ask himself how he would arrange the universe if he were God. When Lex Luthor now asked himself the same question he came to the inevitable conclusion that his rule in the balancing out of social forces was true. Everything is in or approaching a state of equilibrium. There is no good or Bad, no right and wrong, no Heaven and Hell. There is not even any middle ground. There is just a dead centre.
    Therefore, Luthor had to do all he could to make life difficult for Superman. Not to do so was equivalent to trying to repeal Ohm's law or Pauli's Exclusion Principle. It was Luthor's duty to the balance of nature.' - Elliot S Maggin, The Last Son of Krypton 1978.



I think that what fuels Lex towards Supes is not hatred as in want toi kill him, to punish him, but that Lex hates that Superman is there getting the credit for "saving humanity", which is something the ego of Lex wants to have acknowledged!


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