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Subj: Re: I Asked Something Like That Already Once. I'm Surprised That He Hasn't Really Done Anything.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 at 02:43:12 pm EDT (Viewed 94 times)
Reply Subj: Re: I Asked Something Like That Already Once. I'm Surprised That He Hasn't Really Done Anything.
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 at 07:21:11 pm EDT (Viewed 97 times)

Ego and racism are the two main elements that motivate Luthor today, and in 1986 it was no bad idea to try something new and redefine the man for the new age, the 80s being notorious for the "Greed is Good" philosophy and the dawning realisation that that level of greed and selfishness was a terrible thing. And that was what Luthor at that time embodied to a large extent. The problem I tend to think is that as the years have passed that that template for Luthor and his motivations has lost a good deal of its resonance. It isn't the eighties anymore and that context, both in real world and Superman's world, has shifted away from what made that version of Luthor so appealing and dangerous.
I put it to you that the editors and writers today are stuck in pursuing some rather bad habits; they are locked into the thinking that both Luthor and Superman must stick with the broad strokes of what made the '86 reboot work. So today, even though we have the return of so many elements from the pre-1985 continuity, Superman still cannot be explicitly said to be able to travel to other worlds or deep space, neither can he show any super-intelligence or scientific aptitude in how he approaches problems, neither can he use his abilities in an inventive or creative way. Despite all the pre-crisis trappings we now see returned this is still a Superman patterned after the more limited take of the post-1986 years...

And the same goes for Lex Luthor.

As I said above, we have little or no idea anymore what luthor's motivations actually are. And in an astute and commendable way Scott Lobdell was about the only writer (bar Jeph Loeb) who both noted the problems above and attempted to address them in their wotrk on the characters...

    "I think that over the years, Lex has been portrayed as being motivated by insecurities. It started out way back when he was angry that Superman made him lose his hair. And in recent incarnations, he's been a guy who was jealous of Superman's status as the world's most famous man. This Lex who wants to be president and wants to compete with Superman for the title of most popular person? I don't really find that very compelling. I don't have any interest in that version of Lex Luthor. I like Lex as a very, very dangerous guy.
    While we meet him in prison and it's a prison unlike any you've ever seen, I don't believe for a second that Lex is there for any other reason than Lex wants to be there. So clearly, he's working on something, otherwise he wouldn't be there.

    But having said that, I think a guy who has the mind of Lex Luthor — whether he's in a prison or he's in a Taco Bell or he's on Mars — when you have a mind like Lex, it doesn't matter much if you're in "jail" or in "prison." So I think he'll be there until the time he decides he's not going to be, and then he'll be somewhere else." -
    Scott Lobdell, Jan 2013.

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