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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 at 12:23:57 pm EST (Viewed 124 times)
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At what point did DC decide to kill off the nu52 Superman? Was the fan outcry that DC had no choice in the matter? What was the editorial reasoning?

I'm asking this because I recently got the first three volumes of the Action Comics nu52 TPBs and am pretty much enjoying the second volume right now. I'd like some SERIOUS answers to my questions with no snarky responses aimed at DC or the creative teams involved.

Thanks! \:\)

Here's my take... And I'll try and be nice about it.

DC most likely was planning on killing New 52 Superman about a year or two before they actually did it, based on interviews I've read about the decision. The writers had to have Nu52 Supes go through a number of things that would cause his death. Being made into a God of Strength in JLA, using Kryptonite to restore his powers so he could fight Vandal Savage, etc.

I like RAB's reasoning but I personally think there is a lot more to it than that. The New 52 Superman simply wasn't working. I constantly read all across the internet (this board as well as a lot of other places) that the fan outcry was (for the most part) against the Nu52 Superman because of how out of character he was constantly being written. Doesn't matter where I went, all I read was how upset fans were at Superman being written so out of character with only a glimpse here and there of the man we all know and love.

In saying that, it's no surprise the Lois and Clark title did so well. The Superman we all knew and loved had finally returned. Reading RAB's reasoning here, it definitely makes sense to me that Lois and Clark was outselling the main Superman books because this was the Superman that most fans wanted, not the one that was almost always acting so out of character. So, DC made the smartest decision they ever did for Suprman in the 5 years since the New 52 started and that was by killing the New 52 Superman and giving us fans what we wanted by giving us the real Superman, his marriage to Lois and a son.

Glad your enjoying the trades, more power to you. But for numerous reasons, I just could not bring myself to like the Nu52 take on Superman because he wasn't the character I know and love.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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