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Subj: Re: Question About Superman's Secret Identity Before The Reboot: Didn't Darkseid Know It, And Why Didn't He Attack Him Or Do Anything With it?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 at 10:53:53 am EST (Viewed 66 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Question About Superman's Secret Identity Before The Reboot: Didn't Darkseid Know It, And Why Didn't He Attack Him Or Do Anything With it?
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 at 06:45:05 pm EST (Viewed 93 times)

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    I was just curious, because during the Supergirl arc in the old Jeph Loeb Superman/Batman series , Darkseid shows up at the Kent's house to attack Superman. So, I gather that this means that he knew that Clark was Superman. At the very least, he knows where he lives. Did he ever attack him at his house again after that? To my knowledge he has not, but if he does know who he really is or where he lives, do the math. Was his knowing his identity ever brought up again?

My understanding -- or possibly assumption -- is that all of the New Gods knew but just didn't care. Such concepts are beneath them.

    Speaking of villains who knew Superman's identity, who else knew? The only one that springs to mind is Manchester Black and the Parasite, but he died after. Mister Mxy also knew as well, but it's debatable if he's really a villain. He wouldn't do anything malicious with the secret. Did any other villain know?

At various points between 1986 and 2011: the Parasite, Alexander Luthor and Superboy-Prime, Conduit, Ra's al Ghul and Talia, Amanda McCoy, Max Lord, Emmett Vale, Dominus, Eclipso, Gog, the Manhunters, the Phantom Zone villains, the Legion of Super-Villains, Ultraman, the White Martians and more.

Luthor, of course, found out but refused to believe. Much later, Black fed him the information but then it was wiped away by Black or Mxy, even though Luthor still was aware after that that he once knew and held Superman responsible for that the fact that he didn't anymore.

The Joker knew during "Emperor Joker," but it was unclear if he retained that after, and they never did anything with it if he did.

There were hints early that Cyborg knew (he made reference to vague memories about a "farm in Kansas" and "the name Kent").

    Couldn't Brainiac read his mind and figure it out?

In each iteration of the character (telepathic alien, future version of himself, robot, whatever), he had the means of figuring it out. What was established post-Crisis, however, is that, unlike pre-Crisis, it was not common knowledge that Superman had an identity. I am pretty sure it was John Byrne himself that said it never made sense how everyone knew pre-Crisis -- saying, in essence, why did he tell everyone?

    I also read that the Black Racer discovered his identity, when did that happen? Is there anyone that I'm missing? Thanks.

Black Racer knew for sure. He approached Superman, as Clark Kent, during the Blaze/Satannus War.

I am sure that both the Phantom Stranger and Spectre know of him also!

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