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Subj: Re: 9 times Superman beat Batman
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 at 12:16:32 pm EST (Viewed 98 times)
Reply Subj: Re: 9 times Superman beat Batman
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 at 08:22:02 am EST (Viewed 99 times)
He forced Bruce into a choice between suicide and pulverization. Bats chose suicide. That's a win.
That was Batman's choice, not Superman's. The only "victory" is Batman's since he robbed Superman the chance to finish him by committing suicide. Not a win for Superman. Read the comic.
Quote:5. Sorry, but even if Superman could have won in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel, the fact of the matter is: he didn't. Moving on...
Very, very clear defeat for Bats and win for Supes.
How so? When the fight ends, both opponents are still standing. In fact, I read the comic and the scene cuts away to Lex Luthor. So the last thing we see is Batman and Superman having a stare down. Batman wasn't even down on the ground. He was simply staring at Superman by the end of that fight. Batman didn't even look battered and bruised. That's like claiming Mike Tyson won a fight by pounding on the guy, the other dude tries fighting back and then the bell rings with both opponents still standing having a stare down. No offense, but that's ridiculous. No one wins a fight by having a stare down when both opponents are still standing. No one. It's not a win. Read the comic.
Quote:6. Sorry, but Batman was not KOed by Superman when the Black Rock took control of Batman. Bruce may have been beaten black and blue but it's not a win. Especially since Batman immediately began helping Superman take care of the real enemy right after his possession from the Black Rock.
Another clear win. You don't need to be KOed to lose.
Batman may have been beaten black and blue, but he was still conscious and still fought afterwards. Not a win. The only "win" Superman gained here was getting the Black Rock off of Batman. Read the comic.
Quote:7. In Superman's first meeting with Batman in the New 52, the website laughably proclaims that the Flash interrupted the fight between Superman and Batman. And then the website claims it's a win for Superman. Excuse me?! How is this a win for Superman? The fight got interrupted, thus it ended inconclusively.
Batman was basically throwing in the towel when Flash broke it up.
Read the comic. Batman did no such thing. The inner dialogue of the comic makes it clear Batman wanted to talk, Superman didn't. Batman fought only because he was forced to. Not a win.
Did you even read these comics? I suggest you do so because Superman did not win a large majority on this list and I have debunked every single one of them that is clearly not a win. Take the time to read these comics before trying to claim they are wins. They are clearly not.
It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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