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Subj: Re: A brief musing on Luthor, Krypton and Superman's failures
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 at 09:08:02 am EST (Viewed 103 times)
Reply Subj: A brief musing on Luthor, Krypton and Superman's failures
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I heard an interview recently with Elliot S! Maggin discussing the pre-Crisis Lex Luthor where he said, if I may paraphrase, that much of the tragedy of Luthor is that he, much like Krypton, he is a great treasure that was lost, and no matter how much Superman wanted or tried to save him, it still blew up in his face.

The pre-Crisis Superman, at least as people are familiar with him in his iconic 1960s/1970s depiction, was full of so much pathos that I think has, in many ways, been lost in subsequent revisions. Krypton, Luthor, the Kents, Mon-El, Kandor* and more. All failures for Superman. To borrow a line, despite all his wonderful powers, he couldn't save them.

* Yes, I know he restored Kandor eventually, but for more than 20 years of stories, he was not able to do so.

I would differ slightly, by asking if it's possible to contend with fate or free will and succeed? Mon-El, no question, is something that Superman could have achieved, and Brainiac eventually does. However, Krypton and Luthor are intertwined, if you will. The destruction of Krypton gives birth to Superman, and one would have to ask, as it's been raised more than once, what would Luthor be without Superman to despise? Can you save someone from himself?

Pre-Crisis, Krypton's doom is something that seemingly must happen. The Green Lanterns could not save Krypton, and on the occasions where Superman could or was successful in staving off Krypton's fate, the result was always somehow worse than if the Planet survived. . . if I recall correctly.

In terms of Luthor, didn't Maggin write a story where Luthor finally sees the error of his ways and reforms, though many years in the future?

Mind you, I'm not contending with Superman failing as stated, moreso, I'm intrigued by the situations that even his abilities won't allow him to surmount: fate, chance, and free will.




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