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Subj: Re: Would the Nine Realms be better off without the Dark Elves And Fire Demons?
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 11:58:53 pm EDT (Viewed 67 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Would the Nine Realms be better off without the Dark Elves And Fire Demons?
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 at 04:55:11 pm EDT (Viewed 69 times)




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    In many settings for instance demons or devils are evil but are necessary and too powerful for mortals to do much with. And the supreme good forces (if they exist) are part of a cosmic balance.


That has always kind of bothered me in those stories. On one hand, I get the reasons why. You need evil, pain, fear, adversity etc. for spiritual growth and to help define goodness and all that. On the other, it sort of implies a flaw in the system. The "better tomorrow" people dream of is impossible because evil is built into the system. There is always going to be some higher power screwing things up for mortals. In these cases, good is not a type of moderation between extremes, but itself an extreme that is just as bad if not worse than evil. In these settings evil cannot really be defeated, only checked in such a way so you learn to live with it.



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    By some, not all. I am not sure it would be immoral. It sort of depends on what they are doing. It is not ok to force a person of a given culture to change who they are by force. It is ok to try and change them. As far as I can tell.


Treachery and violence appears to be a key part of Dark Elf culture judging by the current story. If they are not fighting each other they are fighting other races. Assuming, as sometimes happens in storiesthey kill anyone who tries to teach them other ways would it be right to conquer and change them by force?


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    The issue here is not really so much culture but type. They are inherently one thing or another. A few odd balls may change but on the whole they are more akin to fire or season. They are what they are.


Would you please clarify? I am not sure what you are talking about.


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    Maybe, but they likely do not have the tools to deal with it either. If they all joined up maybe but Surtur alone can beat any of them fairly quickly outside of Odin.



And assuming Odin was avaliable and willing to help?



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