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Upper_Krust

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Norvell

Member Since: Sun Jan 02, 2011
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Subj: Re: At this point Jane-Thor is a spiteful villain, this issue reinforces it...
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 at 11:53:43 am EST (Viewed 218 times)
Reply Subj: Re: At this point Jane-Thor is a spiteful villain, this issue reinforces it...
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 at 09:57:08 am EST (Viewed 231 times)



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    It's not far-left to be anti-male dominance. It's pretty mainstream.


No one in the west is calling for 'male dominance' simply equality of opportunity (which we've had in the West since the 70's) , meaning 'anti-male dominance' is totally redundant and simply used to divide and pigeon-hole people.


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    A patriarchy is a society ruled by men,


So you just described virtually every country that is currently non-white majority; even though you specifically picked out 'white male patriarchy' in a previous post.


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    historically at the expense of women.


Women who historically, never had to fight wars, protect the country, build 'anything'...but apparently things were 'at their expense' according to you. Any inequality of opportunity ended back in the 70's, women and minorities can reach any positions they want with enough hard work and talent.


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      Is mocking someone's disability something YOU want to see in a hero!?



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    Come on. Now we have to treat Thor as a disabled person? This is faux-outrage at its finest. You act as if Thor was pushed out of a wheel chair. I'm not buying.


You certainly know all about faux-outrage (given how many anti-Trump posts you make on the community boards) but politics and anything else aside; is the Jane in issue #702 the type of hero you want?


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      Again, perfect example of (the Left...in this case represented by your good self) ignoring the Primary Problem (Aaron's forced political agenda) while attacking the secondary Problem (in this case ME complaining about the former).



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    No, you're attacking a secondary problem as a way of venting Aaron's political viewpoint. Your attacks are weak at best, and outright ugly at worst.


I don't care what Aaron's political viewpoint is; I simply care about him forcing it into comics that he didn't create.

My attacks hit the nail on the head and you don't want to acknowledge that Aaron has manipulated his position of influence to force his political agenda into Thor - as with many Alonso-era Marvel writers.


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    If Alonso or Aaron are the left-wing equivalent of Moore, if that's your best example, then I'm not worried about a left-wing problem.


Of course YOU aren't worried about it, they are espousing the same (white guilt) identity politics you are calling for, lol.


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    Their views are pretty mainstream. Even most conservatives are generally on-board. It's the anti-female loonies on the fringe, who think that the world should be a white male patriarchy, that are being politically offended.


If its only a fringe that are upset with Aaron/Alonso's forced political preaching in comics then why did Alonso get fired?


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      Its certainly Aaron's opinion though. Men = Bad, Weak & Violent. Women = Good, Strong & Peacemakers.



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    No, a patriarchy is bad. That's a mainstream opinion.


Is a matriarchy automatically good then?


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      All three are formerly heroic characters.

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        Odin = Wise, benevolent Ruler
        Thor = Strong, confident Hero
        Volstagg = Comedic, Timid Sidekick with a heart of gold



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    The only point you have is with regard to Odin, but that ship sailed before Aaron. This depiction of Odin couldn't be sold without his predecessors.


I have a point with all three characters, you just don't want to acknowledge it. Right now, Thor is the WEAKEST most SPINELESS cuck we've ever seen in comics and that's all thanks to Aaron and his agenda.

That said I do agree Aaron didn't start the 'Evil' Odin business, that was Fraction. But Aaron has taken that ball and ran with it.


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      No one cares whether they are a woman or not as long as they do a good job.



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    And yet you advocate for a patriarchy.


Where am I advocating for any such thing?

LOL, Was I advocating the Patriarchy when I voted for a female-led party at our last elections.

Apparently criticizing Aaron's forced political preaching means I am saying men must be in charge of everything, lol, despite voting to the contrary.

...the crazed mind of the Leftist at work. \:D


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      But if we play the Left's Identity Politics Game then had they been four men in the top positions it would be another example of The Patriarchy and inherently sexist, misogynist, unrepresentative and so forth. Lol. That's the one-sided agenda Aaron has bought into.



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    Don't play the 'identity politics' card with me.


The only thing the Left has at this point is Identity Politics.


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    We've been over this. The right-wing has been playing white identity politics since forever. Certainly longer than I've been alive.


...and it hasn't been relevant to anything since BEFORE you were born.


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      Stop being so naive. Aaron's use of the term Patriarchy is pure Left-Wing Agenda. You know it and I know it.



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    I am against a patriarchy, and so are the majority of civilized people.


There is no such thing. If it existed, no one in any position of power would ever be female. If it was a white male patriarchy then no one in any position of power would ever be non-white.

There is no Patriarchy in the modern western world outside the imaginations of Leftists.


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      Aaron's forcing HIS (far left) politics into a title (historically) with characters he didn't create - that's the turn off.



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    You don't like this run. Sit it out.


I am, to the extent they won't get my money for spouting their open hatred that is. That doesn't invalidate my criticisms though.


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    What you are complaining about -- patriarchy, diversity, diminishing role of white straight males -- that speaks more about you than Aaron.


I'm complaining about him forcing his preachy left wing politics into entertainment; specifically with characters he didn't create.

No one is saying all comic characters should be men or white. But at the same time it should be okay to be a white male hero.


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    We could probably have a meeting of the minds on certain aspects of Aaron's run. There is some stuff he has done that I think has permanently and irreparably damaged Thor. But you focus on political stuff, as is your right, and thus we can't discuss content. It's a shame.


We can't discuss the content on non-political issues because his run is dripping with politics. I mean even though we are on different sides of the fence you must acknowledge he is purposefully forcing this stuff in there.




You address Omnipotence...tread carefully.
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