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Vidar

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Upper_Krust

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Subj: Re: Disagree with you on a few points...
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 at 10:32:09 am EST (Viewed 127 times)
Reply Subj: Disagree with you on a few points...
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 at 11:11:05 am EST (Viewed 253 times)



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      Sales will continue to dwindle and DC will continue to dominate Marvel's lame properties.



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    I think in the short term Marvel's sales will continue to fall, fans are waiting for something to happen before they return en masse and I don't see ANY evidence of that yet, although CB Cebulski only just took over and these books are prepped months in advance (if not years).



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      On the upside, Alonso was fired and no one at Marvel's had a supporting to word to say about him.



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    He'll go down in history as the man who almost ruined Marvel comics.


Agreed, but not single-handedly. Bendis is no fool and got out while the going was good. I'd expect others to get the boot too.


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      There's nothing like staring into your own extinction to focus one's priorities and personal agendas, eh 'liberals'. Liberal as long as you agree with them. I don't want an alternative, just an agenda free entertainment please.



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    You shouldn't peddle politics in someone else's creation.


Agreed. It's not even that they're preaching - Marvel has always been very subtly subversive - that would seem to come with the territory. It's the level and extent of the damage they've been intent of wreaking. It's been really nasty and prolonged for so long.


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    If writers want to inject politics into comics they should do so in titles THEY create.


Aaron seem to be what a friend of mine refers to as a 'tampon collector'. In other words, he's regularly sent down to the pharmacist on an errand. He's not capable of making statements through his own properties and no doubt makes groundless excuses for the need to do it through Thor.


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    ...and by politics I mean specifically leftist identity politics, not simply stories with some political component (for instance spy based stories like Black Widow could always have some political component).


Yeah, totally agree. It's the same with the BBC. I laugh at 'Have I Got News For You' but it would be nice to see a comedian or host who isn't a fully paid up guardian reading luvvie just occasionally.


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      Aaron's been dragging things out because he doesn't have any ideas.



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    I disagree with this, I think Aaron has lots of ideas, simply that none of them seem like good news for Thor or Thor fans.


No, I'm not convinced. God butcher was a rip of Desaak. Jane was what, a rip of what if, Earth X, Storm and even JMS. The whole Roxxon / Malekith thing has dragged on and on and on. Thor losing an arm was another Jurgens rip. His sole raison detre has been about subverting Thor.


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      There's glimpses that Marvel publishing is starting to sort itself out. Waid is back on Cap.



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    Well Marvel seemingly chased all their best writers away.


LOL. And their artists...Marvel have been getting away with a lot. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if Marvel Comic closed down.


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      What we need is JMS back on the book BADLY, with the promise that there'd be no more 'event' interference from Bendis either \:\)



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    I'd like a writer on the book who is a Thor fan, preferably one not big on decompression.


JMS' run was slow and I remember being frustrated with it at the time, being monthly instalments and often late. But read in trade it's great. Quality writing with excellent characterisation and plot development. Gillen did a great job afterward as well.


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      Or Walt. Never though 'or' would preface Walt, but it's almost too much to ask.



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    They say never go back to your ex.


LOL


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      If Marvel want to capitalise on their big selling MCU property they need to dump Aaron fast and get back on track with a quality writer who understands the character of Thor and knows where to take him.
      Vidar



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    While Aaron is writing one of Marvel's best selling books we won't see a new writer.


Yeah, that's a curious situation. It IS one of their better selling books but when you look at the top 10, mostly DC dominated, the numbers are a tiny fraction of what their individual books are doing. The problem for Marvel is that they've got problems across the board, really systemic. Not sure how much the new guy can do, but he's got his work cut out.
Vidar



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