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Subj: Re: Favorite TV Show villains?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 at 10:17:03 pm EDT (Viewed 838 times)
Reply Subj: Favorite TV Show villains?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 at 11:28:56 am EDT (Viewed 936 times)


    Some of my favorites.

    Gul Dukat (Star Trek DS9)
    Weyounn (DS9)
    Kai Winn (DS9)
    Brunt (DS9)
    Female Shapeshifter (DS9)
    The Intendent (DS9)

I didn't really like the female shapeshifter for some reason. Maybe it's just that whole "it's for your own good" game that she played on Odo, I hate when villains do that, I'd rather they just said they're doing it for themselves and screw y'all.

I liked the rest. Brunt was more of a pest than a villain but it was a pleasure to see him cross swords with Quark.

Kai Winn was so easy to hate, but Dukat was somehow able to draw sympathy and had a charm even though you knew he was a horrible person.

    Lore (Star Trek TNG)

It was great to see Spiner take on another role but I don't think Lore broke out of "evil twin" enough. The best one was when they met Noonien Soong because Lore actually got emotional and you could see that he cared about something (even if briefly).

    Ben Linus (Lost)

Like Dukat, I sometimes found myself liking the guy even though he did such horrible things. Hey, he actually got a happy ending in the sideways.

    Gaius Baltar (Battlestar Galactica)
    Caprica Six (BSG)

It took me a few tries to get through this series, it was inconsistent. There is a lot to like in there but also a lot of crap to sift through.

What I couldn't get over is: in the first miniseries Baltar has a chance to steal the old blind lady's seat on the escape ship to save his own life but doesn't, presumably because he's a good person; but later when he has to prove he has the working Cylon detector he frames who he thinks is an innocent to save his own skin. Talk about inconsistent!

Adama was so stupid. You have an enemy who are indistinguishable from your own people, so you task only one scientist with coming up with a detector, and hope he's not one of the enemy? Why not a team of scientists? Whoever comes up with the device, show the others how it works. Doesn't Baltar even admit later that it doesn't really work, and they still trust him? Baltar talks to himself, acts like a complete headcase, and no one ever notices or comments on it. He even becomes President! I never even knew if he was supposed to be a good guy or bad. I don't think the writers did either. I don't think it was clear by the end of the series.

    Scorpius (Farscape)

Loved him!

    Nina Myers (24)
    Sherry Palmer (24)
    Charles Logan (24)
    Tywin Lannister (Game of Thrones)
    Joffrey Baratheon (Game of Thrones)
    Melisandre (Game of Thrones)
    Gus Fring (Breaking Bad)
    Walter White (Breaking Bad)

Loved Gus and Walter. I probably liked Walter more, he was scrappy, he was able to talk himself out of anything. He could really pull stuff out of his ass. A lot of gumption. I didn't really understand the whole conversation during the series of "when he was going to break bad" or "when you stopped sympathizing with Walt" because I thought his transition from hero to villain happened in the first episode when he decided to start a criminal endeavor. Especially in the second episode when he has to kill the guy in his basement and then decides to continue in the meth business.

Didn't see the rest.

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