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Subj: Re: Jean Grey #4: Too many freckles...
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 05:01:45 pm EDT (Viewed 99 times)
Reply Subj: Jean Grey #4: Too many freckles...
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 09:17:15 am EDT (Viewed 164 times)



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    Didn't like last issue Jean Grey story at all. So, didn't even post here about it - nobody else did either. It was pretty good as a Namor tale, though. This issue was the same. Same sloppy direction, same messy characterization, and same leary future for the title. The art was pretty good, though. Having a BIG NAME guest star again is fun but also reminds me how boringly empty the non-existant dedicated supporting cast is.


You make a good point about the absence of a supporting cast - but I don't know how a supporting cast would fit into this particular story. Jean is on walkabout. That's a loner activity. Also, the story is evolving nicely into a how-Batman-became-Batman story. Jean made real progress last issue with Namor and again this issue with Thor. (And yes, last issue was a really good Namor tale, as this issue was a really good Thor tale.)


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    -Grabber cover!!!


This comic consistently has excellent covers.


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    -HOW HOW HOW did she get here? Just like LAST ISSUE with her suddenly appearing under the ocean! Bah. Is that the whole point of Pickles cameo (hidden?) in her backpack? He 'ported her here (but nb. surely not underwater last time)? Really, why bother with him here? He is treated like a NON-supporting cast. He's merely a weak plot device method of travel that can't even 'port up the side of a mountain.


Now there - that's a good question. He obviously has been teleporting Jean all over the world. But why not place her at the top of the mountain? Good question.


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    -Speaking of climbing a mountain - where's the danger/drama here? Teen Jean has TK levitation abilities!


I don't think there was supposed to be danger - just hardship. She was freezing.


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    -Too bad we couldn't get true images in Thor's understandable tall tale of Avengers #1. The image was so cool and it would have been cooler to reimagine an actual after panel scene of Loki's attack. Remind me - those giant dinobeasts weren't really involved right?


I was thinking maybe this adventure was never chronicled in the Avengers comic. Or maybe Thor embellished the tale.


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    -The dialogue of this time tossed teen felt so uneven. Example: it seems "HOLY HELL" was an attempt at teen PC script but then she oddly changes to "HOLY GOD" then to childish "THANK CRAP" followed by tough girl wannabe "SNAP THE HELL OUT OF IT"??


Yeah - the "thank crap" was a little weird.


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    -Uhhhm... if she doubled back then how'd she get up to the summit (and in timely fashion)?? To a DESERTED Asgardian Inn - with modern American PLUMBING??


The Asgardian Inn seemed to me to be a mystery for another day. But definitely a mystery. There has to be a story there.


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    -Intros of LANA and LAVADON were at least something... (probably throwaways ;\) ).


So Lana is a new character? I thought maybe she was just new to me. I haven't been following the Thor book much.


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    -And then there it is, the point of the issue: The (implied) origin of her ability (unconscious only at this point) to manifest a psionic weapon ala Quire or Psylocke. *shakes head not sure how to react* Wow? Meh? Ooo? Sigh? Makes sense? So what?


She's becoming the "truly terrifying specimen" her adult self was, to quote Namor.

I really love the fact that Namor has become a key figure in Jean's journey of self-discovery and self-improvement. He was as arrogant last issue as he has ever been - and he was exactly what she needed. Just beautiful. One of my favorite single issues of any comic book, ever.


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    -Sooo... the killing of sooo many orcs is meaningless to her? Sheesh. Surely, Thor killed a percentage in his attacks and probably a bunch were just knocked out. But it is a serious storytelling mistake not to reveal reaction or accountability of Jean in those deaths!


I don't know if any Orcs actually died. They definitely got chopped pretty badly. But they're Orcs. For all we know, they have healing factors.


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    -She can't replicate the psi-Hammer. Go figure. Probably telegraphing the climax moment vs The Phoenix (which can't come and go soon enough). Are we to believe she will only be going with the Harley Quinn wannabe weapon of choice for no reason or for inspired by The Unworthy reason?? Hmmph.


She seems to be calling up major power by instinct when she needs it. It seems to be a Yoda thing. "There is no try. There is only do - or do not."


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    -Happy ending. Turns out a pretty good Thor story but a unsatisfying Jean story just like last time. This ish had too many marks against it INCLUDING, literally, too many FRECKLES. Freckles can be cute and if they continue to retcon them on her face then fine but, c'mon, they're unrealistically slapping them all over her face which feels... off. Is this to be a distinctive/distractive difference between our true timeline RIP Jean??


I'm cool with the freckles.


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    Still collecting? What marks do YOU give this?


This is one of my favorite comic books. It's always either the first or second book I read on the week that it comes out. The story line makes total sense to me. Jean is worried about the Phoenix and is trying to come up with a way of handling it. She isn't ignoring the danger in hopes of it passing her by. She isn't wallowing in self-pity. She's taking herself through a series of experiences in search of a solution to what may be the biggest problem anyone could ever face.

Oh, and as for Thor - his stories were actually the perfect vehicle for what he needed to impart, which was this: Warriors may be born but they're also made. Stand and fight. Do it again. And again. At some point you'll find yourself telling war stories to a fascinated and respectful audience. And then the Phoenix will come - and you'll stand and fight, because that is who you are. It's who you were born to be but it's also who you will have made yourself into.







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