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The Voice of Reason

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Subj: Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ?
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:53:36 pm EDT (Viewed 55 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Again ? It has become a silly gimmick ... What's the point ?
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 at 06:23:26 pm EDT (Viewed 56 times)

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    So why not give her a chance to be in charge of her life. And do it away from the X-Men........build her into the character she deserves to be?


I could live with the idea of Jean Grey being in charge of her life and maybe even finally becoming a, dare I hope?, interesting character far away from the X-Men, but that is not what people supporting the idea are actually talking about on this thread. What they want to see is for Jean to return to the X-Men and for other characters and large parts of continuity to be removed simultaneously. You yourself advocate the removal of the teen O5 in the original post, others now go so far as favouring sweeping changes of X-continuity going back to the 1980s. So when it comes the matter of Jean's return the question "why?" (specifically: "why does Jean Grey deserve a(nother) chance to be written as an interesting character but Hope, Jeen, Cable, Rachel, Old Man Logan, Hope etc.(1) don't?") is paramount. And there "because she is a Silver Age character" is not a valid answer in my eyes.

(1) This is not to be taken to mean that I necessarily agree with the negative views of all of these characters. I'm referring to what I've seen in various posts on this thread.

Understood. But don't you think in most cases, the original, done right, given the chances they have been neglected in the past, should be put in line ahead of the knockoffs?

Why have a "teen" Jean instead of the original? As for getting rid of the new, old five, yes, I am all for it. It was a stupid, contrived story that should have ended with their return to their proper place. Just like old man Logan has no right being in the 616. Why remove the originals just to replace them with, in most cases, inferior knockoffs? It's lazy storytelling and comes off as the cheap gimmick that it is.

As for Jean's place upon her return, I think many of the people in favor of it have also cited the recent Scarlet Witch book, at least as far as my understanding of it, all appear to want to let Jean step out from under the weight and shadow of the X. Did you read Wanda's book? While disjointed at times, it was a clear attempt to make a break from all the usual cliches that have weighed her down. A similar treatment of Jean would be far better the current Jeen book.