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Menshevik

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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Wanda's Gypsy and mystical roots
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 at 04:07:21 am EST (Viewed 115 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Disney/Fox deal...what does it mean for Wanda and Pietro?
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 at 12:52:52 am EST (Viewed 117 times)



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      Does this mean we can retro-con the retro-con and make them Magneto's kids again?



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    I didn't like the idea at first...but I like Wanda not being Magneto's kid and her exploring the mystic roots in her family tree. But I don't feel that way about Pietro.



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    I think the retcon is great for Wanda and horrible for Pietro. Reversing the retcon will be horrible for Wanda and great for Pietro.



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    Pietro should be Magneto's son. Wanda being Magneto's daughter doesn't really add a dimension to Wanda IMO and never has. Magnus and Pietro's relationship was important...his relationship with Wanda just wasn't. I'd rather Wanda a) be a gypsy and b) have mystical powers. I'm fine with her going back to being a mutant (I even prefer it) but I still want her to have the sorcery background and to not be related to Magneto.


I honestly can't understand the problem you have with Magneto being Wanda's father (unless you obsess about Wanda being a pure-blooded Roma). Before the retcon, Wanda already was a gypsy both by being the daughter of a gypsy woman, Magda, and by being raised in a gypsy family, the Maximoffs. And the mystical powers thing had also been there. So returning Wanda and Pietro to being Magneto's children would be positive for Pietro and largely indifferent for Wanda, so there's no need to add further complications like giving the twins different fathers.

Also, I never was too enthusiastic about giving Wanda mystical powers because it is such an overused cliché to have Gypsy characters magic-users (going back to 19th-century operas and novels if not beyond into the 18th century). Wanda having mutant hex-powers also generally fit the X-books better as a comicbook science thing and in a way it was refreshing to have two non-magic Gypsy kids in the Maximoff twins because in Marvel the correlation Gypsy = Magic User does seem pretty much 1:1 when you look at women (Cynthia von Doom, Gretchin (Lilith's foster-mom), Margali Szardos, Jimaine Szardos/Amanda Sefton) and Gypsy men, if they aren't sorcerers themselves (like Doctor Doom and Stefan Szardos) they at least are married or related to magic-users. So I don't really see much purpose in exploring Wanda's mystical roots in her (maternal) family tree as this is the kind of stuff you get with most Gypsy characters in Marvel anyway, while her mother Magda is a rare exception from the usual "operatic" Gypsy cliché and a stab at a more realistic portrayal of a Roma and the prejudices and persecution her people suffered in the 20th and 21st century.

I did not like it when they tried to make Wanda more "Gypsy-like", and I really disliked the new costume that George Pérez designed for her - it looks more like an operetta costume than something a Romani woman would wear in real life, not to mention that the primary purpose of the change clearly was to show a bit of the wearer's skin.



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