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Subj: Re: Rogue's new, old powers?
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 at 03:27:27 pm EST (Viewed 96 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Rogue's new, old powers?
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 at 10:20:06 am EST (Viewed 96 times)



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    I find it odd that Marvel cycles her through these three phases exclusively:
    1. Only the Rogue powers
    2. Rogue powers and strength and flight
    3. No powers



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    There are plenty of other possibilities. She could have the Rogue powers plus super speed. This would allow her to rush in and touch someone before they knew she was there. She could have the Rogue powers plus invisibility. (Similar concept to the first example.)


There also were brief periods when Rogue had
4. Absorption power plus any power she chose from anyone she had ever absorbed in the past
and
5. Absorption, flight and fiery plasma (the latter two permanently absorbed from Sunfire)

And if you look outside 616, the Rogue of the Age of Apocalypse had absorption and magnetic powers (absorbed from AoA Polaris)


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    But I guess I see the thought process. Super speed would harken back to Quicksilver. Invisibility would harken back to Sue Richards. But strength and flight? Those two powers are the go-to generic super powers. Iron Man, Captain Marvel, Black Bolt, Namor, Wonder Man, Nova, Monet St. Croix, Captain Britain - I'm sure I'm missing a host of other examples. By giving Rogue strength and flight, they're making her generic, which means she isn't stealing any particular hero's thunder. Trouble is, they often tend to forget her inherent mutant ability and just make her a flying puncher.


What is funny is that with super-strength, invulnerability and flight she often is seen duplicating her teammates. For instance during the 1980s she usually was nearly as strong and invulnerable as Colossus, and ever since has been using the Fastball Special, which used to be one of Piotr's signature moves (as a matter of fact she has done it with Colossus as the guy being thrown on at least one occasion). There were also certain similarities between Rogue's Ms. Marvel powers and those of Rachel (Rachel's TK serving as a stand-in for Rogue's super-strength and invulnerability and both having flight powers). And in the last issues of Uncanny Avengers Rogue had (apart from the absorption) exactly the same powers as her newly-returned teammate Wonder Man. A lot obviously depends on the skill of the writer - Claremont e.g. wrote differently enough from Colossus that they had different fighting styles despite greatly similar powers.




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