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Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 08:37:25 am EST (Viewed 93 times)
Reply Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 at 06:15:09 pm EST (Viewed 124 times)
Quote:09 Ugly baby - well, at least by anatomical comparison to Toby's look pages later. On the plus side, throwaway Booch gets named too. THE BABY'S A SCREEEAMER!!!
Quote:10 Seriously. THAT's a FULL page? Well, at least we can wonder how Toby compares to Syrin or Sean as we watch a car spin.
Quote:11 The WolverineS just HAPPEN to be there or Jean called them in before a crisis new mutant powers generate a crisis - similarly unclear as when the heroes show up in the preview pages scenario. Prooobably baby was detected early by Cerebro - so a little less confusing than the earlier 'Searebro' arrival?
Quote:Apparently Laura lives nearby. Jean actually tells the mother this, which caught me off guard from a secret identity point of view.
That's sort of a problem. We know where Laura's apartment is. It's in The Bronx. We've even been given the address (the map below is the approximate address). Roosevelt Island isn't really "in the neighbourhood."
But yeah. Nitpicky. But it's like someone saying Cap is from Long Island.
Quote:So this makes two incidents in one issue of Jean and the Snikts saving young mutants like the 1963 mutants used to do. These are the real X-Men. All others are posers. (Well, OK, I'm overstating things by a lot, but seriously, this is the book that feels like the successor to 1963 and 1975. This is the X-Men being X-Men.)
Saving young mutants wasn't really what X-Men did in 1963, aside from Xavier forming the team. They were always saving humanity from mutants. You know, "protecting the world that fears us."
And again, aside from the team-building, the X-Men didn't do this in 1975 either. Again, the X-Men were primarily about defending humanity from the threat of mutants. The only young mutant that was saved like this was Nightcrawler.
Quote:15 The X-men offer the mom reasonable stat solutions.
Quote:18 Welcome use of global locales since Jean is trying to 'heal the world' of it's mutant problems. Neat BP inclusion.
Quote:20-21 Greeeat. It's a BEAUTIFUL idea and plan - at least according to Kurt. She tells him but not readers! And not Kitty or X-mentors?
Quote:It's fascinating how she formulated the idea. She linked the greatest minds on Earth into a super-mind and used it to super-compute a plan she couldn't have conceived (probably no one could have conceived) independently. We've never seen this before. This is Messiah-level. So of course Kurt is the first one told - Kurt, who once was studying for the priesthood - Kurt, who knows what it means to serve a Messiah and has longed to do so. The soul of the X-Men.
Even if I believed we could think ourselves to paradise (and I don't), we don't get to see the reasoning Jean was doing after this.
Quote:Kitty? I love Kitty but this is above Kitty's pay grade. I'm not sure who the other X-mentors are. Whoever they are, Jean will do this whether they agree with it or not. I get the impression that only Kurt's opinion really mattered. That fascinates me. He has knelt at the altar of a Messiah as a postulant. To him, before and above all others, to him Jean came with her idea. And he blessed it and asked to be baptised with it.
Not Storm?! She's supposed to be Jean's BFF, and she's just as religious. I love Nightcrawler. He's one of my X-trinity, but he's not a great inquisitive mind that's going to be a good sounding board for any ideas. If I were thinking about building something potentially great, he'd be one of the last people I'd ask for opinions.
Quote:22-23 She's recruiting Atlantis more than just Namor. She needs a country behind her to turn wheels at the U.N.
Quote:Wakanda also. But T'Challa is not a mutant so we likely won't be seeing much more of him. Namor, however, is a mutant, and now we know what he's doing in the book. I would never in a million years have guessed.
Yeah, plus he seems to be providing the HQ (Sea-rebro).
Quote:24-25 Addressing the U.N. It's been done before. But it's a bearable 2 pages and Jean neatly wins at her gambit of political meandering this ish. Oddly, she essentially threatens them all with mind manipulation to prove her point. Her big win? She basically just wants everyone to start liking mutants again. Hmmph. THAT's her big win?
Quote:No. Her big win was getting mutantkind recognized as a nation. If not for Cassandra Nova, Jean would have a seat at the UN representing the Mutant Nation. In fact she may still have that seat. Probably not but we didn't actually see the vote rescinded. After all, if I'm not mistaken, Doctor Doom has a seat at the UN.
That battle hasn't even been won yet, and doesn't seem likely to at the end of this. By the ending of this issue, mutants were still NOT recognized as a nation. Jean was trying to get the UK vote to help with this when the head exploded.
Quote:26-28 EEP! Worst. Backfire. Ever. Her first attempt to make a mutant ally is to grossly blow up the -literal- head of a U.K. Ambassador in broad daylight! [Come to think of it Carnelia suffered a similar atrocity years ago with IM.] Now, the series starts...
Quote:Cassandra Nova is apparently the Big Bad. And let's face it, she's pretty big and pretty bad.
Yeah. I may hate her, but she is that.
Quote:29 THAT's why there's a team. To act as Jean's protector as she continues her untold Heal The World mission statement?
Quote:I'm not sure they're her protectors. She probably protects them more than they protect her. They're more like her disciples. Her Apostles.
They don't seem to be.
Quote:30. CRAP! The (sadly inevitable) Return of another despicable and disliked X-men arch-enemy: Cassandra! Which reminds me of another failing of this premiere - the chronological neglect to note the Return of Xavier over in Astonishing book. Well, at least the bland cover makes more sense as it was clearly all about selling Jean and her return to readers. Unfortunately, not buying it yet.
Quote:I know you and Black Guardian think Astonishing matters but I'm not convinced. We'll see if Xavier is still at large when the story arc ends. Right now it is my opinion that X-Men: Red is the premiere X-book.
This is a good point. We don't know the plans for Astonishing after #12. The series was supposed to be building up to #12. It's very possible the series ends then.
However, my main problem with Red is this whole idea of a mutant homeland or place. It's a horrible, quite idiotic idea, and it runs completely counter to Xavier's vision or the X-Men's purpose in 1963, 1975, or any time pre-2000. If this is what Jean's working towards, then please end this thing now.
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