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Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 08:55:19 am EST (Viewed 93 times)
Reply Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 08:37:25 am EST (Viewed 102 times)



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    Saving young mutants wasn't really what X-Men did in 1963, aside from Xavier forming the team. They were always saving humanity from mutants. You know, "protecting the world that fears us."


I could swear I've read dozens of stories about the X-Men saving young mutants. Did they all happen in the 21st century? Was it a Morrison thing? Was it a 90s thing? An 80s thing?


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    Not Storm?! She's supposed to be Jean's BFF, and she's just as religious.


She is? What religion does she practice?


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    I love Nightcrawler. He's one of my X-trinity, but he's not a great inquisitive mind that's going to be a good sounding board for any ideas. If I were thinking about building something potentially great, he'd be one of the last people I'd ask for opinions.


Unless what you wanted was a spiritual answer.


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    Yeah, plus he (Namor) seems to be providing the HQ (Sea-rebro).


I can't wait to learn more about that!


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    That battle hasn't even been won yet, and doesn't seem likely to at the end of this. By the ending of this issue, mutants were still NOT recognized as a nation. Jean was trying to get the UK vote to help with this when the head exploded.


I thought they voted. They seemed pretty happy coming out of the building. Going back and re-reading, I definitely get the impression the vote happened and went Jean's way.

LAURA: I'm glad we came to watch. That was impressive.

HONEY BADGER: Your first step publicly stomped a whole lot of intolerant nations.

But I can see I'm much more willing to read between the lines than you and Emerick Man are. This creative team definitely needs to do better as far as providing concrete answers as to what just happened in the prior panels.


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    However, my main problem with Red is this whole idea of a mutant homeland or place. It's a horrible, quite idiotic idea, and it runs completely counter to Xavier's vision or the X-Men's purpose in 1963, 1975, or any time pre-2000. If this is what Jean's working towards, then please end this thing now.


Jean doesn't want a homeland. She flat out said this.

JEAN: And every time mutants have come together to live in one place - Genosha, Utopia - we have simply made ourselves a bigger target. Whenever mutantkind has tried to live alone, apart, we have been slaughtered.

She doesn't want a homeland. She wants to be recognized at the UN as a people. A people who are in diaspora around the world.







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