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Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 07:12:16 pm EST (Viewed 84 times)
Reply Subj: Re: X-Men Red #1: THAT's why?!
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 at 11:51:37 am EST (Viewed 122 times)



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    Most of this sort of hysteria came later, in the 80s and afterwards. Plus, there really weren't many mutants around back in the 60s and 70s


Funny how I seem to be an 80s guy when it comes to mutants. I was 19 in 1980.

The X-Men had Cerebro from the earliest days (1964) but according to Wikipedia they originally used it mainly to locate evil mutants, which goes along with what you were saying about what the X-Men mostly were about back then: fighting evil mutants.

Nevertheless, the Sentinels first appeared in 1965, so "mutant hysteria" dates back to at least then, unless Bolivar Trask was an anomaly.


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      Unless what you wanted was a spiritual answer.

    Even then, and that's certainly not what Jean's looking for.


It's interesting how obvious the religious angle is to me. Here's something: Jean was raised from the dead. Sure, I know, this is Marvel, no big deal - unless the writer chooses to make it one. It is my contention that this writer is telling a metaphorical Gospel story, much as Roy Thomas did with his original take on Adam Warlock. Only in this story, the Messiah rises at the beginning of the tale instead of at the end. I predict some sort of Crucifixion scenario eventually.


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    Heck, Nightcrawler's never even been able to answer his own spiritual questions. This is a guy who was ignorant enough to believe he'd become a priest of a religion he's supposedly known most of his life, but followed none of the steps to become a priest.


Jean didn't go to Kurt to get answers. She went to him to give answers. Kurt is her Simon Peter.

As for the bit where Kurt didn't know he was being duped about training for the priesthood - yeah, that story line was so stupid I discount it. No practicing Catholic could ever be so ignorant. Marvel obviously decided they didn't want Kurt to become a priest, so they came up with their ridiculous scenario.

The fact that Kurt is the son of Azazel and has various encounters with the demonic realm would actually serve to deepen his spirituality. The truly spiritual are well versed in the dark side. They know the light and they know the dark. They feel both every day. Navigating between the two is almost the definition of real spirituality.


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    You cannot be a nation without a plot of land. Period. That is what the UN deals with. Involving them in this is absurd, and frankly, this plan seeks to undermine every government in the world, including T'Challa's and Namor's (I don't see them going for this). This is exactly the sort of thing Xavier fought against.


That part of the story was Jean going to the synagogues to be recognized.

Cassandra Nova is Satan.

A very interesting question is - Who will be Judas? My money's on Namor.







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