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Subj: Joseph
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 at 08:45:00 am EST (Viewed 74 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Who are your favorite "obscure" mutants?
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 at 04:40:22 am EST (Viewed 68 times)

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      Well, we don't all know which characters you know without googling. ;\-\)



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    Sure you do. See below. You did a great job!



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      Actually, come to think of it Thunderbird I (founding member of the 1975 X-Men team, but killed off in his third appearance and stayed dead most of the time) is even more obscure. But for instance Layla and Guido are clearly far less prominent mutant characters than e.g. Psylocke and Magik, both of whom would technically qualify under your guidelines... \:\-\)



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    Yet you knew Psylocke and Magik were not characters I had in mind. See? But we didn't even get to the best part. See below.



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        But OK - are either of these characters favorites of yours?


      Not really. I kinda like Strong Guy but Layla in the end grated my nerves a bit.


    Strong Guy is cool. He seems like someone who'd be fun to play Settlers of Catan with. Except he'd beat me. Everybody beats me.

    Layla was good when Peter David first introduced her and for a while afterward. He should have just kept her as she was. No explanation. No real back story. She just knew things. I was fascinated by that simple concept. It was a cool power. I liked it. Oh, and lest we forget - Bendis used her in some awful cross-over. House of M? I think that was it but I could easily be wrong. I wish characters had free will and could refuse to let writers use them. They would all flee the scene when Bendis showed up for a recruitment drive.


Brian Bendis created Layla (with Olivier Coipel) during House of M, I guess you'd say PAD salvaged her.


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      Doug Ramsey (Cypher) was the one who came first to mind. Then, in no particular order,



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    I liked him too. But he was a friend of Kitty Pryde! Can't be obscure and a Kitty-friend at the same time. Her prominence will rub off on you. But then you came up with these gems!


If you don't count friends of prominent mutants then there won't be that many eligible characters left, will there? And it's not even as if his friendship with Kitty was plot-relevant for more than one or two years; once he settled into the New Mutants there were very few interactions between the two characters.


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      Bling!

      Frenzy (whom I only started to like during Carey's run).

      Joseph

      Morph (from AoA)



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    I have absolutely no idea who they are so - good choices!


Bling! (Roxy Washington, debuted in X-Men v.2 #171, created by Peter Milligan and Salvador Larroca) is the daughter of two Hip-Hop artists and has a crystalline form. She is notable for having had girlish crushes on both Gambit and Rogue and can currently be seen in Generation X.

Frenzy (Joanna Cargill, debuted in X-Factor #4 as a villain) used to be an Acolyte and gravitated towards the X-Men during the Utopia phase. She has a romantic history with Gambit and became Cyclops' lover in Age of X. Afterwards she decided to reform and served on Rogue's squad in X-Men Legacy. Michael Carey wrote some interesting conversations between her and Magneto.

Joseph eventually turned out to be Magneto's clone. He was originally found by Rogue during her post-AoA absence from the X-Men and for a time appeared to come close to becoming her love-interest. Of course, once it was revealed he was a clone it wasn't long before he was killed off...

Morph is the Age of Apocalypse version of the Changeling, but much more of a fun character.


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    She was a mutant? Wow! I know her from the original Champions.


Yeah, in the 1980s a number of characters were revealed to be mutants, not just a few of the Soviet Super Soldiers (including Darkstar's brother Vanguard, natch), but also Namor, Cloak and Dagger.


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      Lila Cheney



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    I know her. Teleports to other solar systems. Very weird power. I'm actually surprised I know who she is. I think I only encountered her in one issue of one comic. But her last name is Cheney (sounds like "Chaney" as in "Man of a Thousand Faces") so she made an impression on me.



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    Never heard of him/her so - good choice!


Ruth Aldine is a teenaged, eyeless telepath with psychic powers who first appeared in 2005 in Astonishing X-Men. If you think that this makes her resemble the blind precog Destiny, yes the two are related, which makes Ruth a distant cousin by adoption of Rogue's. I first noticed her during Necrosha, she later also appeared in Legion's solo series.


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      Not sure if one should consider them obscure enough:

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        Sunfire (Mariko Yashida) from Exiles



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    Alternate reality version of 616 Sunfire? Nice one!



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      Someone mentioned Molly Hayes, but since she is one of the breakout characters from Runaways, I really think she is too well known to be considered obscure.



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    Molly Hayes is a television star so - not obscure.



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      The same goes for Northstar, X-23 and Squirrel Girl (the latter also fairly recently redefined as not a mutant even though her powers are the result of what can only be described as genetic mutation). Also for Legion, whom I was thinking of including on my list.



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    None of those are obscure by any stretch of the imagination.



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      On the whole, it seems to me I tend to be interested on average more in non-obscure mutants and non-mutant members of the cast (e.g. Val Cooper, Karima Shapandar and Gomi of the Fallen Angels) than in "obscure" mutants.



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    Non-mutant members of the cast... now that's interesting. I think they're usually invisible to me.


I think we had a poll about them a few years back, maybe it is time for a new one?




He came back in the Magneto: Not A Hero mini. Astra resurrected him to pose as Our Lord Magneto at a mutant rally. She had a whole troop of cloned BOEM members. Joseph tried to temp Our Lord back into the villainy game, but he refused. Most of the clones were killed, but Astra and Joseph were locked up in the X-Brig until the sinking of Utopia. Danger freed all of the criminals rather than let them die.

Astra's another obscure one. She's sort of like the original BOEM's Voyager in that she was retconned in as a member, supposedly working behind the scenes during all of that 1960s stuff, but never seen until 1999.


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