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Subj: Re: Yes. And Chaos War's Dead X-Men team.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 08:10:10 am EST (Viewed 158 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Yes. And Chaos War's Dead X-Men team.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 at 05:45:34 am EST (Viewed 153 times)

    It is interesting to me that this was the only time I can remember when fans were engaged in shipping discussions about him (many wanted to pair him up with Emma Frost).

I was surprised by how nice Emma was in the early issues of Generation X. It really seemed odd to me.

    I think he has two basic problems:

    1) He is at heart a nice guy, positive and stable both as a father and a romantic partner, with no inner conflicts or reasons to feel bad about himself. If I want to compare him to someone, the characters who come to mind are characters like Uncle Ben or Joe Robertson - people you love as a reader, but simply are too "smooth", too lacking in rough edges to take the lead in a story.

I guess I'm weird in that I don't need my protagonists to be conflicted or down on themselves. In fact, while I have no desire to read an Uncle Ben comic, I would at least sample a Joe Robertson comic. I've long wished a newspaper reporter could somehow manage to headline a successful comic. Maybe Joe could do it. I guess it's doubtful, but still I can dream. He'd have to get out of the newsroom, of course. It's the investigating that's interesting. And he would need a recurring cop character to save him when he got in too deep. (That's why Lois Lane doesn't work as a solo protagonist. Her backup is too over the top powerful and nearly omniscient with his super senses.) Spider-Man would of course help Joe if Spidey knew there was a problem, which probably wouldn't be all that often, though of course the inevitable (occasional) guest star cameo would be a part of the book.

    2) He is easily replaceable because his daughter has pretty much the exact same powers (and to highlight it wears the same costume as he did); in the meantime she has at least as much on-panel experience using the sonic power. It does not help that Sean chose to use a codename that is by definition female ("banshee" (Irish: bean sí) even contains the Gaelic word for "woman" (bean)). And so there is little more reason to bring Sean back than there is to return Thunderbird I to life, at least until someone decides to revive Moira MacTaggert...

I've often felt Sean was sidelined in favor of his daughter. Yet it's not like the daughter appears all that much.

    But Cyclops definitely had his fuddy-duddiness problems too, or was it that he always seemed to have a stick up his bum? In the 1960s he struck me as terribly boring (getting me to think - Reed Richards is so staid and stiff because he is a generation older than Johnny Storm, but what is Scott's excuse?). He only became interesting for me under Claremont, when he developed an increasingly confrontational (oedipal?) relationship with both his spiritual father and his biological one. (Here one can even see him being resentful at Charles Xavier because he chose Jean to be his confidante when he faked his death and not Scott).

What I liked was the ongoing tension between Scott and Logan. If I had been the writer, I would have added even more pressure points, such as tension between Scott and Captain America, and between Scott and Nick Fury, which would have resulted in tension between the X-Men and the Avengers, and between the X-Men and SHIELD, all exacerbated by the personality conflicts surrounding Scott. Now that doesn't mean we'd have endlessly recurring hero-fights. The disagreements would play out in more complicated ways, usually involving Scott having no regard for the positions taken by the Avengers or SHIELD. I would also have made Scott and Namor frenemies, respecting and understanding one another while nevertheless often opposing one another, though occasionally they would team up, even if only so Namor could thumb his nose at Cap or Fury.

When you have characters who think they're always right (and often in fact are) the obvious thing to do is have them disagree and then just let the story tell itself.

I wonder where Banshee would fall on the "thinks he's always right" spectrum.

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