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Comicguy1 Member Since: Tue Apr 04, 2017 Posts: 1,275 |
Subject: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? Posted Thu Jul 27, 2017 at 09:08:50 pm CDT (Viewed 256 times) |
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I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint?
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The Black Guardian Moderator Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 24,919 |
Subject: Yes, it was strange. I, too, explained it by "dying" taking a toll. [Re: Comicguy1] Posted Fri Jul 28, 2017 at 06:51:33 am CDT (Viewed 173 times) |
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Reverend Meteor Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 11,423 |
Subject: Re: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? [Re: Comicguy1] Posted Fri Jul 28, 2017 at 08:02:52 am CDT (Viewed 270 times) |
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Quote: I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint? I just assume the Hawkeye we've seen since Thunderbolts volume 1 ended has been a Skrull. 
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The Black Guardian Moderator Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 24,919 |
Subject: Re: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? [Re: Reverend Meteor] Posted Fri Jul 28, 2017 at 12:55:11 pm CDT (Viewed 250 times) |
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Well, the gun that Reed built in Secret Invasion #5 caused all Skrulls in a certain radius to transform back to their default shapes. It revealed Skrull-Mockingbird (on Clint's arm), Skrull-Jessica Jones, Srull-Carol, Skrull-Sue, Skrull-Emma, and Skrull-Thor. Clint remained human. Maybe he was the Skrull smart enough to also pack an image inducer?
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Reverend Meteor Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 11,423 |
Subject: Re: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? [Re: The Black Guardian] Posted Fri Jul 28, 2017 at 01:55:30 pm CDT (Viewed 244 times) |
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Quote: Well, the gun that Reed built in Secret Invasion #5 caused all Skrulls in a certain radius to transform back to their default shapes. It revealed Skrull-Mockingbird (on Clint's arm), Skrull-Jessica Jones, Srull-Carol, Skrull-Sue, Skrull-Emma, and Skrull-Thor. Clint remained human.Yeah well Hawkeye saw Mockingbird in hell but the one who died was a Skrull. The shape shifting bomb that stole the Skrull powers back in the 80's and was only cured by Sy'bl's touch never affected Lyja while she was Alicia Masters. Contemplator was retconned into being a Skrull back in Englehart's Slver Surfer run well after the fact in Gruenwald's Quasar even though much of the Contemplator's plan in Silver Surfer relied on the fact that Elders of the Universe have a deal with Death that makes them immortal. Writers write what they want. Quote: Maybe he was the Skrull smart enough to also pack an image inducer?
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aquamariner Member Since: Mon Aug 02, 2010 Posts: 1,073 |
Subject: Re: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? [Re: Comicguy1] Posted Fri Jul 28, 2017 at 04:13:28 pm CDT (Viewed 209 times) |
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Quote: I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint? İn his WCA days he is strictly oposed killing enemy even his ex wife's rapist
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johnmorrissey27@live.com Member Since: Sat Jun 17, 2017 Posts: 49 |
Subject: Re: What Was The Deal With How Bendis Wrote Hawkeye? Didn't He Seem A Little Bit Kill Happy? [Re: Comicguy1] Posted Sat Jul 29, 2017 at 01:31:59 pm CDT (Viewed 224 times) |
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That's cuz Bendis craps all over the established elements of classic characters as he's incapable of writing real heroes, just sullen self centered people. Oh well, write what you know, I guess.
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MysteryMan Member Since: Fri Apr 28, 2017 Posts: 2,319 |
Subject: You just caant trust gypsies or carnies and this is proof! ;P *nt* [Re: Comicguy1] Posted Wed Aug 09, 2017 at 10:18:46 pm CDT (Viewed 158 times) |
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Quote: I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint?
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Reverend Meteor Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008 Posts: 11,423 |
Subject: *cough* kind of racist to say that bit about Gypsies. I agree Carnies are vile. nnt [Re: MysteryMan] Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 at 07:27:01 am CDT (Viewed 145 times) |
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Quote: Quote: I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint?
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MysteryMan Member Since: Fri Apr 28, 2017 Posts: 2,319 |
Subject: Oh sorry...what about Carnies that are Gypsies? And another question can we trust large orange-haired white men? *nt* [Re: Reverend Meteor] Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 at 11:11:17 am CDT (Viewed 142 times) |
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Quote: Quote: Quote: I remember that there were a few times during the Bendis era where Hawkeye seemed a little bit- I guess nonchalant about killing or using lethal force. During the Secret Invasion (Although those were Skrulls.), and didn't he also try to kill Norman Osborn during Dark Reign? Those are the only two that come to mind, were there more? Was this out of character for Clint? I remember that Clint killed Egghead, but that was by accident (More or less.). Maybe Clint dying took a toll on him. But was this strange for Clint?
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MysteryMan Member Since: Fri Apr 28, 2017 Posts: 2,319 |
Subject: Honest answer though wasnt his character ruined by Geoff Johns anyways? *nt* [Re: Reverend Meteor] Posted Fri Aug 11, 2017 at 11:14:18 am CDT (Viewed 114 times) |
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