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DH the Lurker




He's writing the cool and sophisticated mastermind version of BP over in F4. He actually understands continuity. He's read (and praised!) the Jungle Action series that launched the character as a solo character (and he'd force Marvel to put those issues back into print!).

He's not Priest. He's not Hudlin. Therefore, everybody can get over all the hoopla since the relaunch and we can get back to enjoying the character we all love.



DH the Lurker
(Plus he might drag some Fantastic Four fans along with him!)


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Thatguy




> He's writing the cool and sophisticated mastermind version of BP over in F4. He actually understands continuity. He's read (and praised!) the Jungle Action series that launched the character as a solo character (and he'd force Marvel to put those issues back into print!).
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> He's not Priest. He's not Hudlin. Therefore, everybody can get over all the hoopla since the relaunch and we can get back to enjoying the character we all love.
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> DH the Lurker
> (Plus he might drag some Fantastic Four fans along with him!)


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pendex




really he is one of the worst writers i have ever read, he is like a bad copy of chlaremont. and i don't even like chlaremont


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AndrewMTC




> really he is one of the worst writers i have ever read, he is like a bad copy of chlaremont. and i don't even like chlaremont

I guess everyone's gotta have haters. I've seen people call Watchmen boring and LoEG stupid, after all...

(and I guess you'd probably only HAVE to know how to spell Claremont if you DID like him, so you do have an excuse...)


Check it out: Shu and I (and FLCL) teamed up!


Wait a sec....isn't this Hudlin's IP address?? \:\-D \:\-D
(sorry)


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takufan4




> > He's writing the cool and sophisticated mastermind version of BP over in F4. He actually understands continuity. He's read (and praised!) the Jungle Action series that launched the character as a solo character (and he'd force Marvel to put those issues back into print!).
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> > He's not Priest. He's not Hudlin. Therefore, everybody can get over all the hoopla since the relaunch and we can get back to enjoying the character we all love.
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> > DH the Lurker
> > (Plus he might drag some Fantastic Four fans along with him!)


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Thatguy




I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)


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takufan4




> I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)

.........that McDuffie was a writer/story editor/producer of a little TV show called "Justice League Unlimited."

The cat can write. Look at your favorite JLU episodes and see who wrote them.




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DH the Lurker




> > I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)
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> .........that McDuffie was a writer/story editor/producer of a little TV show called "Justice League Unlimited."
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> The cat can write. Look at your favorite JLU episodes and see who wrote them.
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pendex




allright, i like the JLU tv series, it was cool,of Mc diffie wrote some of those episodes, the props to him, but Mcduffie writing comics ( specially these last FF issues) is terrible! i repeat: like a bad copy of chlaremont , and i don't evenlike chalremont!

what with all that ridiculous dialogue in the middle of the fight explaining your enemy whos powers are you going to use against him!!
ridiculous, FF 545 was ridiculous!!


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takufan4




> allright, i like the JLU tv series, it was cool,of Mc diffie wrote some of those episodes, the props to him, but Mcduffie writing comics ( specially these last FF issues) is terrible! i repeat: like a bad copy of chlaremont , and i don't evenlike chalremont!
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> what with all that ridiculous dialogue in the middle of the fight explaining your enemy whos powers are you going to use against him!!
> ridiculous, FF 545 was ridiculous!!

Haven't read it yet. I've got REAL BEHIND on my BP (and now FF) reading.


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pendex




in my opinion, someone who son't like LOEG or WATChmen IS JUST A retarded person.

my opinion about mcduffie is simply that his writing is obsolete, ala claremont, with stupid dialogues in the middle of the fight explaining your enemy what powers are you going to use against him, or what are you doing.
pathetic

and don't be ridiculous, Moore is on the major leagues, mc daffie , who is him?? please!!!

i am not a hater per se


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pantherlord




> in my opinion, someone who son't like LOEG or WATChmen IS JUST A retarded person.
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> my opinion about mcduffie is simply that his writing is obsolete, ala claremont, with stupid dialogues in the middle of the fight explaining your enemy what powers are you going to use against him, or what are you doing.
> pathetic
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> and don't be ridiculous, Moore is on the major leagues, mc daffie , who is him?? please!!!
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> i am not a hater per se

Dwayne McDuffie is a pretty good writer. He is a much better writer than Hudlin ever will be. However Dwayne McDuffie's writing is very much like fan fiction in that while good it does not elevate the character of Black Panther to a new level. Dwayne McDuffie is trying his best, but his best is just homage to Priest's writing and not the real deal.

There are only two writers I know of that have been shown to be able to write Black Panther. These two are Don McGregor and Christopher Priest. Hudlin is a hack that could not write to save his life and McDuffie is an imitator, albeit a good one.



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Chris




> > I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)
>
> .........that McDuffie was a writer/story editor/producer of a little TV show called "Justice League Unlimited."
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> The cat can write. Look at your favorite JLU episodes and see who wrote them.
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But looking at his track record, pretty soon T'Challa will be hooking up Mary Jane Watson or the next green eyed redhead that walks by. I love Duff, but I want him far away from Panther. Panther and Sue Richards in the same book written by him is scary enough


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Thatguy




> > > I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)
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> > .........that McDuffie was a writer/story editor/producer of a little TV show called "Justice League Unlimited."
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> > The cat can write. Look at your favorite JLU episodes and see who wrote them.
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> But looking at his track record, pretty soon T'Challa will be hooking up Mary Jane Watson or the next green eyed redhead that walks by. I love Duff, but I want him far away from Panther. Panther and Sue Richards in the same book written by him is scary enough

I can only respond to the above by asking WTF are you talking about? Hooking up with Mary Jane? If you're smoking something, it's powerful stuff ;\)


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Chris




You guys referenced his work on JLU, I'm referencing his history of having the prominent black role falling in love with redheads like John in JLU and Static in the original comic book. As much as I like Duff, I don't want him screwing too much with the continuity set up by Hudlin. Don't be Thatguy, be a gentleman.

> > > > I'm allowed cheap shots if I admit them as much ;\)
> > >
> > > .........that McDuffie was a writer/story editor/producer of a little TV show called "Justice League Unlimited."
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> > > The cat can write. Look at your favorite JLU episodes and see who wrote them.
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> > But looking at his track record, pretty soon T'Challa will be hooking up Mary Jane Watson or the next green eyed redhead that walks by. I love Duff, but I want him far away from Panther. Panther and Sue Richards in the same book written by him is scary enough
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> I can only respond to the above by asking WTF are you talking about? Hooking up with Mary Jane? If you're smoking something, it's powerful stuff ;\)


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Thatguy




> You guys referenced his work on JLU, I'm referencing his history of having the prominent black role falling in love with redheads like John in JLU and Static in the original comic book. As much as I like Duff, I don't want him screwing too much with the continuity set up by Hudlin. Don't be Thatguy, be a gentleman.

Yes, it'd be terrible if someone screwed with Hudlin's continuity. I mean, he's been so thoughtful and respectful to those that've come before that it'd be a true shame to see his masterful writing swept away by the latest 'hot' writer who hasn't proven themselves *rhe*

With Hudlin, I say honor to whom honor is due.

As for McDuffie's writing, so a guy writing two African Americans in red head relationships is enough to damn him as a writer? Idealogically, I can't even begin to say how so deeply wrong that it.

Didn't read the Static series, but your complaint regarding John in JLU is fairly close minded, in terms of plot dynamics if nothing else (though it's close minded in other ways). For the longest time, Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl were the only females on the team. With WW locked into relationships with one of the other two big three, Hawkgirl was the only game in town for John. And it wasn't like Hawkgirl could really interact with Flash or Manhunter romantically.

If you bothered to look beyond race, you'd see how Hawkgirl and GL complimented each other, driving both of their characters forward. In regards to John, it had him opening up, becoming less of the military hard ass, only for it to come back and bite him when Hawkgirl's true mission is revealed. Later, he's forced to deal with the betrayal, moving on and his remaining feelings for Hawkgirl. And by the time the series ends, John emerged as his own man, committed to seeing his relationship with Vixen through, unwilling to bow to fate or emotionally 'cheat' in his relationship with Vixen (who's African American, btw).

To those that complain about the relationship, I'd say look beyond the surface. Don't be like Chris.


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Chris




> > You guys referenced his work on JLU, I'm referencing his history of having the prominent black role falling in love with redheads like John in JLU and Static in the original comic book. As much as I like Duff, I don't want him screwing too much with the continuity set up by Hudlin. Don't be Thatguy, be a gentleman.
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> Yes, it'd be terrible if someone screwed with Hudlin's continuity. I mean, he's been so thoughtful and respectful to those that've come before that it'd be a true shame to see his masterful writing swept away by the latest 'hot' writer who hasn't proven themselves *rhe*
>

Hudlin presented the Panther in a way that made me very excited and a loyal follower of the character in ways his predecessors hadn't, and it would be a shame to have that tampered with. Priest did his thing, but at the end, I prefer Hudlin's Panther, the character is far less tainted with subterfuge after subterfuge, and I don't have to see the character through the eyes of someone else.

As far as JLU, I liked the Shayera/John relationship, but I did not like the depiction of John post starcrossed. Could really have done without the indecisiveness, that was just silly.


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fan4




> really he is one of the worst writers i have ever read, he is like a bad copy of chlaremont. and i don't even like chlaremont

I think you meant Claremont.


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