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Serious




Well, the sales estimates are in for May, and to date...

Black Panther #1 - 69,930
Black Panther #2 - 47,533
Black Panther #3 - 44,925
Black Panther #4 - 40,804
Black Panther #5 - 37,401
Black Panther #6 - 35,256
Black Panther #7 - 42,905
Black Panther #8 - 46,239
Black Panther #9 - 40,173
Black Panther #10 - 31,987
Black Panther #11 - 29,327
Black Panther #12 - 27,933
Black Panther #13 - 26,054
Black Panther #14 - 28,809
Black Panther #15 - 28,361
Black Panther #16 - 28,091
Black Panther #17 - 27,993
Black Panther #18 - 69,912
Black Panther #19 - 28,372
Black Panther #20 - 26,585
Black Panther #21 - 34,257
Black Panther #22 - 47,556
Black Panther #23 - 54,762
Black Panther #24 - 59,971
Black Panther #25 - 56,479
Black Panther #26 - 51,385
Black Panther #27 - 52,552

As always, from ICv2.com: http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/10766.html

Lookin' good.

I'm not really feeling this Zombie arc, and I'll be glad when the Fantastic Four business is over... Overall though, sales are looking good. The Civil War and Initiative effect continues.


Yo, I'm Serious


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DH the Lurker




> Well, the sales estimates are in for May, and to date...
>
> Black Panther #1 - 69,930
> Black Panther #2 - 47,533
> Black Panther #3 - 44,925
> Black Panther #4 - 40,804
> Black Panther #5 - 37,401
> Black Panther #6 - 35,256
> Black Panther #7 - 42,905
> Black Panther #8 - 46,239
> Black Panther #9 - 40,173
> Black Panther #10 - 31,987
> Black Panther #11 - 29,327
> Black Panther #12 - 27,933
> Black Panther #13 - 26,054
> Black Panther #14 - 28,809
> Black Panther #15 - 28,361
> Black Panther #16 - 28,091
> Black Panther #17 - 27,993
> Black Panther #18 - 69,912
> Black Panther #19 - 28,372
> Black Panther #20 - 26,585
> Black Panther #21 - 34,257
> Black Panther #22 - 47,556
> Black Panther #23 - 54,762
> Black Panther #24 - 59,971
> Black Panther #25 - 56,479
> Black Panther #26 - 51,385
> Black Panther #27 - 52,552
>
> As always, from ICv2.com: http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/10766.html
>
> Lookin' good.
>
> I'm not really feeling this Zombie arc, and I'll be glad when the Fantastic Four business is over... Overall though, sales are looking good. The Civil War and Initiative effect continues.
>
>
> Yo, I'm Serious


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stophattin'




> > Well, the sales estimates are in for May, and to date...
> >
> > Black Panther #1 - 69,930
> > Black Panther #2 - 47,533
> > Black Panther #3 - 44,925
> > Black Panther #4 - 40,804
> > Black Panther #5 - 37,401
> > Black Panther #6 - 35,256
> > Black Panther #7 - 42,905
> > Black Panther #8 - 46,239
> > Black Panther #9 - 40,173
> > Black Panther #10 - 31,987
> > Black Panther #11 - 29,327
> > Black Panther #12 - 27,933
> > Black Panther #13 - 26,054
> > Black Panther #14 - 28,809
> > Black Panther #15 - 28,361
> > Black Panther #16 - 28,091
> > Black Panther #17 - 27,993
> > Black Panther #18 - 69,912
> > Black Panther #19 - 28,372
> > Black Panther #20 - 26,585
> > Black Panther #21 - 34,257
> > Black Panther #22 - 47,556
> > Black Panther #23 - 54,762
> > Black Panther #24 - 59,971
> > Black Panther #25 - 56,479
> > Black Panther #26 - 51,385
> > Black Panther #27 - 52,552
> >
> > As always, from ICv2.com: http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/10766.html
> >
> > Lookin' good.
> >
> > I'm not really feeling this Zombie arc, and I'll be glad when the Fantastic Four business is over... Overall though, sales are looking good. The Civil War and Initiative effect continues.
> >
> >
> > Yo, I'm Serious


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pantherlord




It looks to me like the only thing keeping Black Panther going are the massive amounts of propaganda, the crossovers and the hype. Once all this goes way Black Panther will get cancelled.


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Serious




> It looks to me like the only thing keeping Black Panther going are the massive amounts of propaganda, the crossovers and the hype.

If that's what it takes to keep it from being cancelled.

We may love the Black Panther, but he's not a hugely popular character. So you have to do something to increase his exposure to readers who would never normally pick up his book, and just writing "good" stories isn't enough. Never has been (for this character), never will be.

And left to survive on his own it'll end up how it did the last time -- well written, but sold poorly.

Now it's moderately-well written and sells moderately-well.

(And, yes, if Priest had had all of these crossovers and promotions his run probably would have sold better than the current one. Unfortunately, he didn't.)


Yo, I'm Serious


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Thatguy




> > It looks to me like the only thing keeping Black Panther going are the massive amounts of propaganda, the crossovers and the hype.
>
> If that's what it takes to keep it from being cancelled.
>
> We may love the Black Panther, but he's not a hugely popular character. So you have to do something to increase his exposure to readers who would never normally pick up his book, and just writing "good" stories isn't enough. Never has been (for this character), never will be.

Nor has been sticking a random character into a series just to increase sales. In some ways, it can hurt a character who doesn't have a strong enough fanbase. That's what happened Venom, Ghost Rider and Punisher in the 90s, and now these once popular characters have been demoted to cult status.

Simply sticking a character in the reader's face isn't enough. Until Hudlin gives Panther an extra niche, I fear any increase in exposure will simply mean a longer dive into limbo later.
>
> And left to survive on his own it'll end up how it did the last time -- well written, but sold poorly.
>
> Now it's moderately-well written and sells moderately-well.

I disagree with the first part entirely ;\)
>
> (And, yes, if Priest had had all of these crossovers and promotions his run probably would have sold better than the current one. Unfortunately, he didn't.)

Word.


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ÑAÑOÑ




i loved the first 7 issues of black panther, IMO these are the best work hudlin has done in his entire run on the series, really, and the art was excellent john romita jr, trevor hairsine, IMO, from issue 8 and up, the series went on a downhill road of quality (both on scripts and art, most in art, are you going to deny it?)to the point that i am considering in droping the series.

but what do i see now in the sales estimates?? that the best issues were the lower salers, nearly 25k, and on the other hand, the poorer issues in queality are selling 50k.

really who understand the fanboys.
i don not.


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Thatguy




Crossovers, tie ins, etc draw in more readers, but fails to hold them long term. Putting aside the debate about quality, another reason might be because these crossovers rarely play to T'Challa's character in any meaningful/profound way, and as such, readers don't get to see what makes him stand oyt as a character.


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Primetime.




> Crossovers, tie ins, etc draw in more readers, but fails to hold them long term. Putting aside the debate about quality, another reason might be because these crossovers rarely play to T'Challa's character in any meaningful/profound way, and as such, readers don't get to see what makes him stand oyt as a character.

But how will they see him stand out as a character if don't read the book at all? I mean, the people drawn to the crossover would not read the book at all if not for the crossover and thus would not be able to see what makes the character stand out.


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Thatguy




> > Crossovers, tie ins, etc draw in more readers, but fails to hold them long term. Putting aside the debate about quality, another reason might be because these crossovers rarely play to T'Challa's character in any meaningful/profound way, and as such, readers don't get to see what makes him stand oyt as a character.
>
> But how will they see him stand out as a character if don't read the book at all? I mean, the people drawn to the crossover would not read the book at all if not for the crossover and thus would not be able to see what makes the character stand out.

I wasn't talking about the need for crossovers, rather their seeming inability to retain readers for this series. It's a two step process, ideally.


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vermin




And then cancell the series like when Priest was running things.

> It looks to me like the only thing keeping Black Panther going are the massive amounts of propaganda, the crossovers and the hype. Once all this goes way Black Panther will get cancelled.


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Loren




> Overall though, sales are looking good. The Civil War and Initiative effect continues.

Sales are good, but it's not enough to merely mention the crossover effect. It needs to be illustrated, like so:

Black Panther #17 - 27,993
Black Panther #18 - 69,912 - Civil War (& Wedding)
Black Panther #19 - 28,372
Black Panther #20 - 26,585
Black Panther #21 - 34,257 - Civil War
Black Panther #22 - 47,556 - Civil War
Black Panther #23 - 54,762 - Civil War
Black Panther #24 - 59,971 - Civil War
Black Panther #25 - 56,479 - Civil War
Black Panther #26 - 51,385 - The Initiative
Black Panther #27 - 52,552 - The Initiative (& Marvel Zombies)
Black Panther #28 - ______ - The Initiative (& Marvel Zombies)
Black Panther #29 - ______ - The Initiative (& Marvel Zombies)

It's unknown as of yet whether #30 will bear a crossover banner on its cover. In any case, come August and #29, there will have been nine consecutive months of cover-advertised crossovers (and 10 out of the past 12 issues). It certainly makes business sense; just look at the sales of the only 2 non-crossover issues sandwiched in the middle.


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