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The Black Ace




I sadly have canceled my subscription of The Black Panther (My very favorite marvel character). I'm afraid the whole retcon approach didnt appeal to me. I feel that The Black Panther had a very proud history that I had grown up reading, and I didnt appreciate the break in continuity. I read all the Jungle Action issues and all the Christoper Priest issues as well as his different stints with the Avengers. While there is credence that the Priest issues had flaws (after all, Tchalla was hardly in his own comic and Priest was too fond of doing the bait and switch which left his own readers in the dark.)he certainly gave the Panther a mystique and sense of having "come into his own" that was missing before, while at the same time performing an homage to the rich history of the character. I appreciated that he also spent some time developing "the panther cult", because I always thought the character should have a touch of Shamanisim to contrast/balance out the Super Science aspect of his personal reality. Tchalla with his bald head, and shades was just as mysterious and fascinating as his masked avatar. You could tell that he had really grown and been shaped by his past. But currently I find his world to be trendy and the stories empty. Pretending that the last 41 years of his exploits never happened or maybe just some of it happened is insulting. I'm afraid I also don't like that he has to drag an X-Man with him into ever story, now that he has married Storm.(What a dumb idea!) If I wanted to see Ororo I'd buy a mutant title. But apparently at Marvel you have to read the X-men no matter what title you buy. In my estimation she ruins the tone of every issue and takes away from the main character: The Black Panther. The Black Panther is brilliant loner, just like the animal he is named for. But now he has access to the powers of wind and thunder vis a vis his wife. Its almost like he has all new super powers. I liked him better as a genius inventor/scientist, A philosopher-king and Shamanic Avatar of his tribe. So I guess I'll just partake of the Sacred Herb and wait in the Pavillion of the Panther God for the next incarnation of........ The Black Panther!


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Darius




I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I have to disagree about Storm's inclusion as Panther's wife.

Yeah, she's a member of the X-Men, but just because she's an X-Men does not necessarily mean she should only appear in an X-Men title. And I think, if done right and handled by the right writer, the marriage between Panther and Storm can be a great thing.

Currently, yeah, these two are not doing anything significant, which is a shame. But maybe whoever writes about them being married will take them to new heights.


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The Black Ace




Well I agree that an X-man can appear in other titles, I guess I just have an attachment to him as a mysterious loner, with a vast array of women who he has been involved with, that appear from time to time to shake things up, including Storm.And of course the possible Queenship of Wakanda was always an interesting bauble to swing in front of a female character. But I suppose there has to be a queen eventually. I preferred monica lynn the most. I liked how she was a total outsider, much like T'challa himself. But I think she somehow developed superpowers as well. It is also possible that I have been inundated by mutants for the past 25 years and am looking for a breather. Black Panther was always a refreshing break from everything else.

> I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I have to disagree about Storm's inclusion as Panther's wife.
>
> Yeah, she's a member of the X-Men, but just because she's an X-Men does not necessarily mean she should only appear in an X-Men title. And I think, if done right and handled by the right writer, the marriage between Panther and Storm can be a great thing.
>
> Currently, yeah, these two are not doing anything significant, which is a shame. But maybe whoever writes about them being married will take them to new heights.


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Halo82




I was about to put BP on my pull list again but then heard about the details of the retcon and said screw it something smells fishy. Since then I've bought only one issue (18) and it was okay at best.

> I sadly have canceled my subscription of The Black Panther (My very favorite marvel character). I'm afraid the whole retcon approach didnt appeal to me. I feel that The Black Panther had a very proud history that I had grown up reading, and I didnt appreciate the break in continuity. I read all the Jungle Action issues and all the Christoper Priest issues as well as his different stints with the Avengers. While there is credence that the Priest issues had flaws (after all, Tchalla was hardly in his own comic and Priest was too fond of doing the bait and switch which left his own readers in the dark.)he certainly gave the Panther a mystique and sense of having "come into his own" that was missing before, while at the same time performing an homage to the rich history of the character. I appreciated that he also spent some time developing "the panther cult", because I always thought the character should have a touch of Shamanisim to contrast/balance out the Super Science aspect of his personal reality. Tchalla with his bald head, and shades was just as mysterious and fascinating as his masked avatar. You could tell that he had really grown and been shaped by his past. But currently I find his world to be trendy and the stories empty. Pretending that the last 41 years of his exploits never happened or maybe just some of it happened is insulting. I'm afraid I also don't like that he has to drag an X-Man with him into ever story, now that he has married Storm.(What a dumb idea!) If I wanted to see Ororo I'd buy a mutant title. But apparently at Marvel you have to read the X-men no matter what title you buy. In my estimation she ruins the tone of every issue and takes away from the main character: The Black Panther. The Black Panther is brilliant loner, just like the animal he is named for. But now he has access to the powers of wind and thunder vis a vis his wife. Its almost like he has all new super powers. I liked him better as a genius inventor/scientist, A philosopher-king and Shamanic Avatar of his tribe. So I guess I'll just partake of the Sacred Herb and wait in the Pavillion of the Panther God for the next incarnation of........ The Black Panther!


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pantherlord




> Well I agree that an X-man can appear in other titles, I guess I just have an attachment to him as a mysterious loner, with a vast array of women who he has been involved with, that appear from time to time to shake things up, including Storm.And of course the possible Queenship of Wakanda was always an interesting bauble to swing in front of a female character. But I suppose there has to be a queen eventually. I preferred monica lynn the most. I liked how she was a total outsider, much like T'challa himself. But I think she somehow developed superpowers as well. It is also possible that I have been inundated by mutants for the past 25 years and am looking for a breather. Black Panther was always a refreshing break from everything else.
>
> > I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I have to disagree about Storm's inclusion as Panther's wife.
> >
> > Yeah, she's a member of the X-Men, but just because she's an X-Men does not necessarily mean she should only appear in an X-Men title. And I think, if done right and handled by the right writer, the marriage between Panther and Storm can be a great thing.
> >
> > Currently, yeah, these two are not doing anything significant, which is a shame. But maybe whoever writes about them being married will take them to new heights.

I never had any faith in Hudlin from the start. Priest worked hard in the comics industry for decades just to get a shot at a big brand superhero and he got shafted with Black Panther. However he turned it into the most interesting superhero in the Marvel Universe at the time. Did Black Panther sell well under Priest? It sold well enough to stay selling with great stories and was even hailed as the best comic of Marvel Comics at the time despite little to no publicity and support from Marvel Comics. 8\-\)

Hudlin on the other hand despite having no experience in the comics industry, got a free shot with virtually unlimited support from Marvel Comics at writing Black Panther who had become a very important character in the Marvel Universe under Priest. Then what does Hudlin do? He screws it up big time! He not only screws it up once, but over and over and over again. I mean damn, you would expect after the first story arc, the guy would figure out that he knows squat about comics, but no, instead the guy acts like he is the greatest comic book writer ever and he can do no wrong all the time. Under, Hudlin Black Panther has become a laughing stock. A character that just appears in crossovers with no significance whatsoever, leaving Wakanda behind to going around the world to do nothing, having a useless wife that takes up most of the attention, and fighting zombies again and again. \:'\(

Seriously, when I was first reading Priest's Black Panther I never would have thought that someone could screw up Black Panther in the future as badly as Hudlin has done.

Hudlin needs to get the shaft from Marvel, bring back the guy with the experience, and get red of the rookie with no talent. \:\-\)



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Tchalla62




T62 - " I absolutely loved the idea of T'Challa -and- Storm getting married . MARVEL should focus on their relationship .Unfortunately ( McDuffie ) who is writing the F.F. is doing a poor job . It's time to get them away from that team , improve T'Challa's rogue gallery , deal with the political aspect of WAKANDA's place as a world power -and- bring the Black-Panther comic series back to the days when this title was exciting . "


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ñañoñ




i don't have problems with the marriaGE OR that kinda thing.
but this last arc is just ridiculous, it's time for HUdlin to leave, someone tell the guy please


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The Black Ace




Amen Brother! The reason Hudlin probably got carte blanche is because he is in the MOVIE/TV INDUSTRY! Marvel comics used to be in the comic publishing industry and now they are in the WANNABE MOVIE INDUSTRY! Unfortunately Marvel comics are kind of whores now. Sigh. And I agree with you about Storm as well! Someone should beg Priest to come back. Or maybe give some of the heart shaped herb to Grant Morrison. He could definately combine the facets of Priest, Kirby, and Mcgregor into one giant Shamanistic,Super Science,Geo-political mind blower! I'm sure many people will be aghast at that suggestion.
>
> I never had any faith in Hudlin from the start. Priest worked hard in the comics industry for decades just to get a shot at a big brand superhero and he got shafted with Black Panther. However he turned it into the most interesting superhero in the Marvel Universe at the time. Did Black Panther sell well under Priest? It sold well enough to stay selling with great stories and was even hailed as the best comic of Marvel Comics at the time despite little to no publicity and support from Marvel Comics. 8\-\)
>
> Hudlin on the other hand despite having no experience in the comics industry, got a free shot with virtually unlimited support from Marvel Comics at writing Black Panther who had become a very important character in the Marvel Universe under Priest. Then what does Hudlin do? He screws it up big time! He not only screws it up once, but over and over and over again. I mean damn, you would expect after the first story arc, the guy would figure out that he knows squat about comics, but no, instead the guy acts like he is the greatest comic book writer ever and he can do no wrong all the time. Under, Hudlin Black Panther has become a laughing stock. A character that just appears in crossovers with no significance whatsoever, leaving Wakanda behind to going around the world to do nothing, having a useless wife that takes up most of the attention, and fighting zombies again and again. \:'\(
>
> Seriously, when I was first reading Priest's Black Panther I never would have thought that someone could screw up Black Panther in the future as badly as Hudlin has done.
>
> Hudlin needs to get the shaft from Marvel, bring back the guy with the experience, and get red of the rookie with no talent. \:\-\)
>


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Doom Patrol Reject




I too stopped buying the Panther regularly about the time of the marriage, with a purchase every-now-and-again, but finally gave up completely at the zombie arc.

Panther, as a character, came across more regally and assured in earlier incarnations. Now, he just seems like any other character who has access to near-absurd deus ex machinas, with stories that are sometimes ok, stories that are many times "meh", and stories that are sometimes weak. That's not enough to get me to buy it again.

I am not so in-love with past continuity that I refuse to accept any changes in it. But the direction of this incarnation of the Panther just doesn't provide me the character appeal, and the intricacies of a well-plotted, complex (but engaging) story.

I really do think Marvel should move Hudlin off this book. I think Christos Gage would do a much better job, frankly pick anyone who might be able to give T'Challa back the majesty he had as a ruler, friend, lover, and combatant from earlier incarnations.


> Well I agree that an X-man can appear in other titles, I guess I just have an attachment to him as a mysterious loner, with a vast array of women who he has been involved with, that appear from time to time to shake things up, including Storm.And of course the possible Queenship of Wakanda was always an interesting bauble to swing in front of a female character. But I suppose there has to be a queen eventually. I preferred monica lynn the most. I liked how she was a total outsider, much like T'challa himself. But I think she somehow developed superpowers as well. It is also possible that I have been inundated by mutants for the past 25 years and am looking for a breather. Black Panther was always a refreshing break from everything else.
>
> > I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I have to disagree about Storm's inclusion as Panther's wife.
> >
> > Yeah, she's a member of the X-Men, but just because she's an X-Men does not necessarily mean she should only appear in an X-Men title. And I think, if done right and handled by the right writer, the marriage between Panther and Storm can be a great thing.
> >
> > Currently, yeah, these two are not doing anything significant, which is a shame. But maybe whoever writes about them being married will take them to new heights.


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