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Loren




With the announcement of the BP TV series, I borrowed "Who Is the Black Panther" from the library. Looking at the back cover, I noticed something I hadn't noticed before.

There are four quotes of praise for the book. The first three are from Charles Johnson, Ziggy Marley, and Ice Cube. The fourth says the arc is a thriller that:

Ain't It Cool News has lauded as "better than watching a really great hour-long television drama."

Since AICN is not a reviewer in itself, I thought I'd try to find the original review. I had a surprising amount of trouble doing so, and it turned out that the reason was because the actual review, from "Prof. Challenger," has THIS sentence:

"This series is deadly serious though and does feel almost like I'm watching a really good hour-long drama on TV.

Changing "drama on TV" to "television drama" is unnecessary, but doesn't change the meaning. But that's just one of three changes. (Three changes in a 9-word 'quote.') Marvel also changed "really good" to "really great," and changed "almost like I'm watching" to "better than watching." (Emphasis added) The combination takes the quote from just being complimentary to offering considerably more praise.

Almost makes you wonder if the other quotes are accurate. Of course, there's no way to check those. (Ice Cube's, "Finally my favorite super hero," doesn't even speak to the story.)

Has anyone ever caught Marvel manipulating jacket quotes like this on other TPBs?


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WakandaMan




Wow....that is unbelievable. Impressive bit of detective work there Loren. I would hope that they wouldn't manipulate quotes like that at all, little own frequently.

That is so low.

> With the announcement of the BP TV series, I borrowed "Who Is the Black Panther" from the library. Looking at the back cover, I noticed something I hadn't noticed before.
>
> There are four quotes of praise for the book. The first three are from Charles Johnson, Ziggy Marley, and Ice Cube. The fourth says the arc is a thriller that:
>
> Ain't It Cool News has lauded as "better than watching a really great hour-long television drama."
>
> Since AICN is not a reviewer in itself, I thought I'd try to find the original review. I had a surprising amount of trouble doing so, and it turned out that the reason was because the actual review, from "Prof. Challenger," has THIS sentence:
>
> "This series is deadly serious though and does feel almost like I'm watching a really good hour-long drama on TV.
>
> Changing "drama on TV" to "television drama" is unnecessary, but doesn't change the meaning. But that's just one of three changes. (Three changes in a 9-word 'quote.') Marvel also changed "really good" to "really great," and changed "almost like I'm watching" to "better than watching." (Emphasis added) The combination takes the quote from just being complimentary to offering considerably more praise.
>
> Almost makes you wonder if the other quotes are accurate. Of course, there's no way to check those. (Ice Cube's, "Finally my favorite super hero," doesn't even speak to the story.)
>
> Has anyone ever caught Marvel manipulating jacket quotes like this on other TPBs?


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estoik




Loren whats your surprise??

every time a Marvel or DC executive, creator or editor or wahtever talks about their comics they always say: wow, this is going to be great, really, the best comic of teh decade, blah bla bla...

they never say something like: from the 60 titles taht we are publishing , i think 40 of them are plain crap, or something like that, which is probably what they think. I mean, a normal person ( i am not talking about f'''' freaks who buy 30 titles a month) like 5- to 10 titles or something like that. You have to be stupid to like evrything a company publish.

So, tehy always are manipulative, for they;: verything the y do is great and it will blow yopur mind and bal bañ bal, tehy are not sincere, so i am nortsurpisdsed about the quotes


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Thatguy




> Loren whats your surprise??
>
> every time a Marvel or DC executive, creator or editor or wahtever talks about their comics they always say: wow, this is going to be great, really, the best comic of teh decade, blah bla bla...
>
> they never say something like: from the 60 titles taht we are publishing , i think 40 of them are plain crap, or something like that, which is probably what they think. I mean, a normal person ( i am not talking about f'''' freaks who buy 30 titles a month) like 5- to 10 titles or something like that. You have to be stupid to like evrything a company publish.
>
> So, tehy always are manipulative, for they;: verything the y do is great and it will blow yopur mind and bal bañ bal, tehy are not sincere, so i am nortsurpisdsed about the quotes

There's a difference between tactfully lying/concealing the truth about one's product and misrepresenting the comments of someone else, though.

No one expects writers to detail and nail down future plot points. But at the same time, readers don't expect recommendations and reviews to be altered.


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Loren




> Loren whats your surprise??

I've never seen Marvel or DC actually alter the words of a jacket quote before, while still keeping the quote marks around it. Maybe they do it in other places (I haven't checked), but that would just make it worse.

Just imagine what the reaction would be if Warner Brothers got caught changing reviewer quotes they used in their movie ads to make the reviewers sound more positive. Not just selectively quoting, or even manipulating through the use of ellipsis (which would still be frowned upon), but actively changing and replacing words to punch it up.

> every time a Marvel or DC executive, creator or editor or wahtever talks about their comics they always say: wow, this is going to be great, really, the best comic of teh decade, blah bla bla...

Of course I don't expect a publisher to put a negative review on the jacket. That's silly. But I expect them to be honest with the ones they *do* use.


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Black Captain




It's entirely possible that AICN supplied that qoute by paraphrasing the post that you read. They have been PROVEN to supply good reviews and quotes for money/shwag so the legitimacy of ANY quote coming from that site should be in question.


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