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Merzah the Mystic





has there ever been a story about an attempt to Democratize Wakanda? It would be interesting. I mean the Panther is basically a monarch, a good one apparently, but an outdated concept. it would be interesting to see if the panther would fight against it. hed be opposing democracy basically if he tried to keep himself as ruler. I mean if hes interested in modernizing his country this would be an obvious step.

has this ever been touched upon?


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MorteM

Modernizing Wakanda



I've read most BP issues, and i dont remember Democracy coming up. "Modernizing" Wakanda might not be the best term, since it is commonly known as one of the most technologically, advanced societies in the Marvel Universe. Even Reed Richards has been impressed w/ the way T'Challa is running his country.
Would be a great story line, I've loved the Wakanda political stories of the past (Khyber Island, the Atlantis/Lemuria/Wakanda triangle).




> has there ever been a story about an attempt to Democratize Wakanda? It would be interesting. I mean the Panther is basically a monarch, a good one apparently, but an outdated concept. it would be interesting to see if the panther would fight against it. hed be opposing democracy basically if he tried to keep himself as ruler. I mean if hes interested in modernizing his country this would be an obvious step.
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Merzah the Mystic




> I've read most BP issues, and i dont remember Democracy coming up. "Modernizing" Wakanda might not be the best term, since it is commonly known as one of the most technologically, advanced societies in the Marvel Universe. Even Reed Richards has been impressed w/ the way T'Challa is running his country.
> Would be a great story line, I've loved the Wakanda political stories of the past (Khyber Island, the Atlantis/Lemuria/Wakanda triangle).

i think it would be a great storyline too but i cant imagine any writer having the courage to do it. its an almost untouchable topic in the BP series. Either BP steps down and is no longer the hereditary king admitting that he wasnt what was best for his country. or BP fights against democracy and basically makes the unthinkable point that a total monarchy might be better than a democracy in some cases. i cant imagine any writer being good enough to pull that off.

i doubt its a topic that will ever be addressed (too bad, great potential)

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RZX




It would be a great storyline, but also quite challenging. For one, it would assume that Democracy as seen in the west is the "Best" system for everyone; and the other hand, isn't the best sign of democracy than for people to choose How they should be governed, even if by a monarch.
A system is only outdated when the people feels it doesn't fulfull its purpose, until then, Monarchy has not been outdated in Wakanda.
I doubt the panther would fight against it, didn't he accept defeat when Killmonger beat him in a fair fight? A great storyline would be the U.S trying to be bring democracy in Wakanda throught Storm, adn supporting the tribes who oppose the Panther (white gorilla), and see what happens.

> > I've read most BP issues, and i dont remember Democracy coming up. "Modernizing" Wakanda might not be the best term, since it is commonly known as one of the most technologically, advanced societies in the Marvel Universe. Even Reed Richards has been impressed w/ the way T'Challa is running his country.
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Merzah the Mystic




> It would be a great storyline, but also quite challenging. For one, it would assume that Democracy as seen in the west is the "Best" system for everyone; and the other hand, isn't the best sign of democracy than for people to choose How they should be governed, even if by a monarch.

this is what i was getting at. It would be quite hard to sell to an american market the idea that democracy might not be the best in all situations. its almost too deep of a subject for a comic book to touch upon.

> A system is only outdated when the people feels it doesn't fulfull its purpose, until then, Monarchy has not been outdated in Wakanda.

True, but you could argue that the Wakandan people dont really have a choice in the matter. they cant really change anything if they wanted to.

> I doubt the panther would fight against it, didn't he accept defeat when Killmonger beat him in a fair fight? A great storyline would be the U.S trying to be bring democracy in Wakanda throught Storm, adn supporting the tribes who oppose the Panther (white gorilla), and see what happens.

Man, that might come off as a slap in the face against US foriegn policy

I dont think the Panther would oppose it, but it would be interesting to get his take on it. Does he feel "guilty" about having unlimited power over his people. he obviously has their best interests in mind, but does he see his power as his hereditary "right"?

Perhaps he could try to introduce a parlement into Wakanda to share power with. Lots of story potential there. Gradual shift in power and the problems that would no doubt occur.

As I said, I cant imagine a writer touching it. Its kind of a no-win storyline. Whatever you do, someone would get angry.
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> has there ever been a story about an attempt to Democratize Wakanda? It would be interesting. I mean the Panther is basically a monarch, a good one apparently, but an outdated concept. it would be interesting to see if the panther would fight against it. hed be opposing democracy basically if he tried to keep himself as ruler. I mean if hes interested in modernizing his country this would be an obvious step.
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In the comics it ain't broke, why fix it?


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singory




a democracy would have made them lose to the skrulls

i think thats kinda the message marvel was trying to deliver



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Merzah




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has anybody bothered to ask the Wakandans? It they were unhappy theres nothing they can do?

as i said, it would make an interesting story. Would our hero (tchalla) fight against democracy?


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R.SHABAZZ




Has there been a story concerning, the amount Wakandas who carry the mutuant gene, and the amount of people who are mutants?

This is a worth while story, also just how many other African nationas in the Marvel universe are similar to Wakanda?


SHABAZZ



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XQHInc




I think everyone has forgotten why Wakanda is a monarchy in the first place. Only the royal bloodline can ingest the herb, only they can resist the infection from the Vibranium mound and they have ties to the Panther God. Would you overthrow Pharoah or the Queen just to imitate another country whos ideals came about from completely different cercumstance? Wakanda is a monarchy for a reason, why challange it?


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