All current versions of each character:-


Stardust versus Superman

Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal

Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate

Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman

Super Nova versus Captain Marvel

Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter

Ronan versus Power Girl

Red Shift versus Wonder Woman

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman

Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly

> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal

Likely Jordan, although firelord has a respectable shot

> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate

Fate . . . current surfer is barely consious ;-P

> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman

Team 1

> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel

probably super nova

> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter

Not sure where MM is at mentally these days . . . a hardcore super skrull beats a pacifist MM but . . . an incompitent MM beats the incompitent SS (aka the normal versions of each ;-p) and an angry disgruntled MM beats an angry disgruntled SS . . . so the martian should win the majority.

> Ronan versus Power Girl

pretty much the same as above

> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman, unless there is something weird going on with her currently

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman

Stardust, Supes doesn't have to powerset to effectively fight him and would need some sort of plot device to beat him.

> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal

My money's on Hal, but only just.

> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate

Which version of Fate?

> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman

DCers.

> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel

Super Nova.

> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter

MM, but in a good one. If the SS played it smart, he would definitely take a few.

> Ronan versus Power Girl

Ronan, if he pulls out all the stops with his UW, otherwise PG will take it.

> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman

What are RS's main abilities again...?

C

> > All current versions of each character:-
> >
> >
> > Stardust versus Superman
>
> Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly

What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?

Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...

I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.

C.

> > > All current versions of each character:-
> > >
> > >
> > > Stardust versus Superman
> >
> > Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly
>
> What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?
>
> Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...
>
> I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.

Now I freely admit that Superman is not Asteroth . . . but Asteroth's eye beams clearly hurt stardust, Asteroths claws (although there did seem to be an energy effect there as well) clearly hurt stardust . . . Hell dust was clearly leaking energy when she got her arm bit off and it did take a few panels to reform. Personally I think she was bluffing when she said that BRB would never be able to destroy that body, I mean how many times has a villian made that claim.

". . . of a plot device" --- Heck that statement alone almost assures a superman victory

> > Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman
>
> DCers.
>

D- :-@ -Cers??? Either Drax or Gamora alone could destroy them, me thinks ;-> . What could they possibly have in their arsenal that would even faze the duo :-?? How would they withstand even one attack from either :-?? Inquiring minds want to know!


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > > > All current versions of each character:-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stardust versus Superman
> > >
> > > Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly
> >
> > What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?
> >
> > Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...
> >
> > I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.
>
> Now I freely admit that Superman is not Asteroth . . . but Asteroth's eye beams clearly hurt stardust, Asteroths claws (although there did seem to be an energy effect there as well) clearly hurt stardust . . . Hell dust was clearly leaking energy when she got her arm bit off and it did take a few panels to reform. Personally I think she was bluffing when she said that BRB would never be able to destroy that body, I mean how many times has a villian made that claim.
>
> ". . . of a plot device" --- Heck that statement alone almost assures a superman victory

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman
>

Contrary to what Incriptus believes, I do think that Stardust is immune to physical harm(at least the class 100 variety ), so...

> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal
>

Firelord, barring some uber-ring plot device...

> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate
>
Surfer beats Hector(without Nabu).

> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman
>

Either one slaughters the DC guys...

> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel
>

Presumably, SN...

> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter
>

What Incriptus said...

> Ronan versus Power Girl
>

Non E2 PG would propably lose to Annihilation Ronan a majority...


> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman
>
Red Shift


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > > Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman
> >
> > DCers.
> >
>
> D- :-@ -Cers??? Either Drax or Gamora alone could destroy them, me thinks ;-> . What could they possibly have in their arsenal that would even faze the duo :-?? How would they withstand even one attack from either :-?? Inquiring minds want to know!

A-list Batman - Mr. Walking Plot Device himself? Hawkman and Wildcat keep the duo busy just long enough for Bats comes up with... something... plot devicey to win the day.

Come on, you know that's what will happen.

C.

Her

> > > > All current versions of each character:-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stardust versus Superman
> > >
> > > Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly
> >
> > What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?
> >
> > Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...
> >
> > I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.
>
> Now I freely admit that Superman is not Asteroth . . . but Asteroth's eye beams clearly hurt stardust, Asteroths claws (although there did seem to be an energy effect there as well) clearly hurt stardust . . . Hell dust was clearly leaking energy when she got her arm bit off and it did take a few panels to reform. Personally I think she was bluffing when she said that BRB would never be able to destroy that body, I mean how many times has a villian made that claim.

Well, I don't buy that he's invincible either but it would definitely take something that could disrupt his energy body to do it.

And keep in mind... Stardust did infact survive all of that including a trip through a black hole and still kept on truckin'! Being hurt by a "cosmic demon" who was casually blowing up planets left, right and center is, well... nothing to be ashamed of.

> ". . . of a plot device" --- Heck that statement alone almost assures a superman victory

Heh. Remember though - he's Superman, not Batman. If Mr. Plot Device himself were there to help him... well, that's a different story.

C.

> > > > > All current versions of each character:-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stardust versus Superman
> > > >
> > > > Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly
> > >
> > > What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?
> > >
> > > Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...
> > >
> > > I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.
> >
> > Now I freely admit that Superman is not Asteroth . . . but Asteroth's eye beams clearly hurt stardust, Asteroths claws (although there did seem to be an energy effect there as well) clearly hurt stardust . . . Hell dust was clearly leaking energy when she got her arm bit off and it did take a few panels to reform. Personally I think she was bluffing when she said that BRB would never be able to destroy that body, I mean how many times has a villian made that claim.
>
> Well, I don't buy that he's invincible either but it would definitely take something that could disrupt his energy body to do it.
>
> And keep in mind... Stardust did infact survive all of that including a trip through a black hole and still kept on truckin'! Being hurt by a "cosmic demon" who was casually blowing up planets left, right and center is, well... nothing to be ashamed of.

although Wonderman does suck just a little more than your average blackhole . . . but yeah, Stardust is tough, but I think superman could crack him\her\it, although I guess i was being a little generous to superman, as he does tend to win alot.

> > ". . . of a plot device" --- Heck that statement alone almost assures a superman victory
>
> Heh. Remember though - he's Superman, not Batman. If Mr. Plot Device himself were there to help him... well, that's a different story.

well that goes without saying

> C.

Him!

Oeming says he's male, Stardust's creator, but Giffen said in a few interviews Stardust was a chick, but seemed to be joking about it. It caught on to one degree or another, but even Andy Schmidt, editor of Annihilation, says Stardust is male. Its just a typo.

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman

Stardust should considering his resistance to physical harm, energy attacks and raw might, but in a story Superman likely would through some plot device. I favor Stardust though.
>
> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal

Firelord, unless its a very high Hal showing.
>
> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate

Surfer beats most mages, he is to fast and powerful.
>
> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman

Marvel team. Gamora beats Bats and Wildcat alone. Drax likely could too.
>
> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel

Nova
>
> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter

SS is a monster now.
>
> Ronan versus Power Girl

Depends on PG, all but the most powerful lose to Ronan.
>
> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman. Red Shift is not a very impressive herald. Its still not a cake walk, but she wins.
>

... still fall like a sack of potatoes before one sec passed, I tells ya!

Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

>
> ... still fall like a sack of potatoes before one sec passed, I tells ya!

C'mon, a few bat-flash and bat-stun grenades to put them off-balance, followed by bat-gas bombs and a couple o' bat-kicks to thier solar plexi and they're going down.

C.

> Oeming says he's male, Stardust's creator, but Giffen said in a few interviews Stardust was a chick, but seemed to be joking about it. It caught on to one degree or another, but even Andy Schmidt, editor of Annihilation, says Stardust is male. Its just a typo.

Yes, yes... you could claim that the Nova Corps "obviously were mistaken in that first entry and that they updated it in the new database", but, guess what... la, la, la -not listening- la, la, la....


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> >
> > ... still fall like a sack of potatoes before one sec passed, I tells ya!
>
> C'mon, a few bat-flash and bat-stun grenades to put them off-balance, followed by bat-gas bombs and a couple o' bat-kicks to thier solar plexi and they're going down.
>
> C.

> > > > > All current versions of each character:-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stardust versus Superman
> > > >
> > > > Likely a very competive match-up, I favor Stardust ever so slightly
> > >
> > > What could Supes do to Stardust though, really?
> > >
> > > Heat and cold aren't going to bother him and he's going to regenerate any physical damage he takes almost instantly. On the other hand, Supes is going to eat planet-levelling cosmic power that he's not going just be able to shrug off...
> > >
> > > I can't see 'dust losing this fight outside of a plot device.
> >
> > Now I freely admit that Superman is not Asteroth . . . but Asteroth's eye beams clearly hurt stardust, Asteroths claws (although there did seem to be an energy effect there as well) clearly hurt stardust . . . Hell dust was clearly leaking energy when she got her arm bit off and it did take a few panels to reform. Personally I think she was bluffing when she said that BRB would never be able to destroy that body, I mean how many times has a villian made that claim.
> >
> > ". . . of a plot device" --- Heck that statement alone almost assures a superman victory

http://www.comicboards.com/surfer/view.php?rpl=060707160958

Giffen says Oeming told him Stardust was female.

There was no direct reference to stardust's gender in Stormbreaker (and if i could be proven wrong Drax probably would have done so by now). But come on, think about Morg is a guys name . . . Terrax is a guys name . . . Firelord is a guys name . . . Stardust is a chicks name, (or atleast a stage name ).

Plus you seem to be forgetting something very important . . . Incriptus is always right, if we stick with that basic premise we can accomplish alot around here

> There was no direct reference to stardust's gender in Stormbreaker (and if i could be proven wrong Drax probably would have done so by now).

Who needs Drax... >:-D

Read again where Stardust opens the portal to summon Asteroth, Bill refers to SD as, you guessed it, HE in the following panel.

But come on, think about Morg is a guys name . . . Terrax is a guys name . . . Firelord is a guys name . . . Stardust is a chicks name, (or atleast a stage name ).

I like to think of it as more "gender neutral"... like Bobby.

> Plus you seem to be forgetting something very important . . . Incriptus is always right, if we stick with that basic premise we can accomplish alot around here

Damn, I'm going to have to unravel that little world you live in Incrip!

Cheers!

C.

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman
>
> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal
>
> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate
>
> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman
>
> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel
>
> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter
>
> Ronan versus Power Girl
>
> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman
>

> > There was no direct reference to stardust's gender in Stormbreaker (and if i could be proven wrong Drax probably would have done so by now).
>
> Who needs Drax... >:-D
>
> Read again where Stardust opens the portal to summon Asteroth, Bill refers to SD as, you guessed it, HE in the following panel.

Bah what would bill know about cosmic alien genders . . . yeah that's it, bill was mistaken, not me . . . not me !!!!!

> But come on, think about Morg is a guys name . . . Terrax is a guys name . . . Firelord is a guys name . . . Stardust is a chicks name, (or atleast a stage name ).
>
> I like to think of it as more "gender neutral"... like Bobby.
>
> > Plus you seem to be forgetting something very important . . . Incriptus is always right, if we stick with that basic premise we can accomplish alot around here
>
> Damn, I'm going to have to unravel that little world you live in Incrip!

I am undone . . . of course it does remind me how Stardust was clearly harmed, massively leaking energy after bill hit him with the round the world hammer shot, to the point where stardust was desperate enough to call upon forces beyond his control.

> Cheers!
>
> C.

> Bah what would bill know about cosmic alien genders . . . yeah that's it, bill was mistaken, not me . . . not me !!!!!
>

Be that as it may, when Bill was transported to that whitey-white place after their fight with Asteroth, dem all-knowing voices clearly referred to Stardust as a "he"...

Damn, I'm good >:-D !


> I am undone . . . of course it does remind me how Stardust was clearly harmed, massively leaking energy after bill hit him with the round the world hammer shot, to the point where stardust was desperate enough to call upon forces beyond his control.
>

He did so because he wanted to make Bill suffer monumentally for his effrontery(damaging his damageable form)... damn horseface, thinks he can hurt a heralds ego and get away with it X-P .

That's it, pwned again !

Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

So stardust was a He . . .

operative word being was - RETCON GENDER PUNCH

> So stardust was a He . . .
>
> operative word being was - RETCON GENDER PUNCH


This solicitation:

ANNIHILATION: HERALDS OF GALACTUS - TERRAX/STARDUST
Written by CHRISTOS GAGE & STUART MOORE
Penciled by GIUSEPPE CAMUNCOLI & MIKE MCKONE
Cover by GABRIELE DELL'OTTO
After being captured, enslaved and made a pawn of Annihilus, Terrax has broken free...only to crash-land on a planet ruled by the Space Parasite! Facing an enemy who can absorb his cosmic power, will Terrax assume the fearsome role of The Tamer once again...or has the trauma of his enslavement broken his once-mighty spirit?
PLUS! Stardust is dead. But what was he? Who was he? And is he really gone? Find out in this all-new tale featuring Galactus' newest herald! Book 1 (of 2)
64 PGS./Rated A...$3.99


Oh, oh, I'm good! Retcon-smetcon! Ha >:-D !


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > So stardust was a He . . .
> >
> > operative word being was - RETCON GENDER PUNCH
>
>
> This solicitation:
>
> ANNIHILATION: HERALDS OF GALACTUS - TERRAX/STARDUST
> Written by CHRISTOS GAGE & STUART MOORE
> Penciled by GIUSEPPE CAMUNCOLI & MIKE MCKONE
> Cover by GABRIELE DELL'OTTO
> After being captured, enslaved and made a pawn of Annihilus, Terrax has broken free...only to crash-land on a planet ruled by the Space Parasite! Facing an enemy who can absorb his cosmic power, will Terrax assume the fearsome role of The Tamer once again...or has the trauma of his enslavement broken his once-mighty spirit?
> PLUS! Stardust is dead. But what was he? Who was he? And is he really gone? Find out in this all-new tale featuring Galactus' newest herald! Book 1 (of 2)
> 64 PGS./Rated A...$3.99
>
>
> Oh, oh, I'm good! Retcon-smetcon! Ha >:-D !
>
>
> Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> All current versions of each character:-
>
>
> Stardust versus Superman

Stardust. Can't see Kal doing a whole lot of damage to him. Just a bad match-up for Supes.

> Firelord versus Green Lantern Hal

The jobber Herald jobs yet again.

> Silver Surfer versus Dr Fate

I'd still probably classic Surfer over classic Fate, but I'm definitely going with Uber-Surfer vs. the current, direction-less Fate.

> Drax & Gamora versus Batman, Wildcat & Hawkman

This fight is over in less time it took me to right this sentence. Draz & Gamora DESTROY the puny humans.

> Super Nova versus Captain Marvel

Super-Nova. Especially over Freddy. Just a bit too much power for him.

> Super Skrull versus Martian Manhunter

Current determined SS beats current psycho MM. Classic MM beats classic SS.

> Ronan versus Power Girl

Did PG ever get re-powered? If not, she might struggle with this fight.

> Red Shift versus Wonder Woman

Red Shift. Sorry, I just don't see her beating heralds on a regular basis.

Annihilation wins big, as one would expect given the uber cosmic types they have.