This guy basically punked Ironman fairly recently without the Mandarin's rings. How would he do without the rings against...

Iron Fist

Wolverine

Karnak

SpiderMan

Cap

Black Panther w/Vibranium suit and standard gear

Now how do the following do versus Temugin with the Mandarin's rings

Thena

Midnight Sun

Extremis Ironman

Hulk

Vulcan

Ares

> This guy basically punked Ironman fairly recently without the Mandarin's rings. How would he do without the rings against...
>

In all fairness, IM jobbed a bit, but I do like Temugin, so I'll look the other way ...

> Iron Fist
>
> Wolverine
>
> Karnak
>
> SpiderMan
>
> Cap
>
> Black Panther w/Vibranium suit and standard gear
>

Propalby beats all of the above...

> Now how do the following do versus Temugin with the Mandarin's rings
>
> Thena
>
> Midnight Sun
>
> Extremis Ironman
>
> Hulk
>
> Vulcan
>
> Ares

I can only be sure that he can take MS & Ares(without the rings too). He can Fixit, but the other versions of Hulk would propably prove insurmountable. I have limited/no familiarity with EIM & Vulcan, so I can't say. Thena propably wins.


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > This guy basically punked Ironman fairly recently without the Mandarin's rings. How would he do without the rings against...
> >
>
> In all fairness, IM jobbed a bit, but I do like Temugin, so I'll look the other way ...

Yeah he underestimated Temmy . . . and later when tony was wounded and temmy did have the rings, Ironman actually did better than the first time around

> > Iron Fist
> >
> > Wolverine
> >
> > Karnak
> >
> > SpiderMan
> >
> > Cap
> >
> > Black Panther w/Vibranium suit and standard gear
> >
>
> Propalby beats all of the above...

With spiderman being the biggest problem, and likely to pull the spiderman victory from his buttox

> > Now how do the following do versus Temugin with the Mandarin's rings
> >
> > Thena
> >
> > Midnight Sun
> >
> > Extremis Ironman
> >
> > Hulk
> >
> > Vulcan
> >
> > Ares
>
> I can only be sure that he can take MS & Ares(without the rings too). He can Fixit, but the other versions of Hulk would propably prove insurmountable. I have limited/no familiarity with EIM & Vulcan, so I can't say. Thena propably wins.

I am in agreement with Drax on this except I think EIM wins . . . I don't know Vulcan that well either (although he's supposed to be an uber energy manipulator and that could give him the win but i don't know). . . and I think Thena wins.

> Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > > This guy basically punked Ironman fairly recently without the Mandarin's rings. How would he do without the rings against...
> > >
> >
> > In all fairness, IM jobbed a bit, but I do like Temugin, so I'll look the other way ...
>
> Yeah he underestimated Temmy . . . and later when tony was wounded and temmy did have the rings, Ironman actually did better than the first time around
>
> > > Iron Fist
> > >
> > > Wolverine
> > >
> > > Karnak
> > >
> > > SpiderMan
> > >
> > > Cap
> > >
> > > Black Panther w/Vibranium suit and standard gear
> > >
> >
> > Propalby beats all of the above...
>
> With spiderman being the biggest problem, and likely to pull the spiderman victory from his buttox
>
> > > Now how do the following do versus Temugin with the Mandarin's rings
> > >
> > > Thena
> > >
> > > Midnight Sun

Any specific thoughts on the battle above? Midnight Sun has been able to deal and take dammage from the surfer and his MA skills are on par w/ Shang Chi's.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/midnightsun.htm

> > >
> > > Extremis Ironman
> > >
> > > Hulk
> > >
> > > Vulcan
> > >
> > > Ares
> >
> > I can only be sure that he can take MS & Ares(without the rings too). He can Fixit, but the other versions of Hulk would propably prove insurmountable. I have limited/no familiarity with EIM & Vulcan, so I can't say. Thena propably wins.
>
> I am in agreement with Drax on this except I think EIM wins . . . I don't know Vulcan that well either (although he's supposed to be an uber energy manipulator and that could give him the win but i don't know). . . and I think Thena wins.
>
> > Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer

> > > > Midnight Sun
>
> Any specific thoughts on the battle above? Midnight Sun has been able to deal and take dammage from the surfer and his MA skills are on par w/ Shang Chi's.
>
> http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/midnightsun.htm


Not amped Sun stands no chance. The amped one has a 50/50 shot against normal Temugin, or maybe a slight edge, depending on how their speeds compare(Temugin would be the better martial artist, IMO, and while he would be below MS in durability and strength, he'd still be able to hurt him and take some of his blows). Temugin with rings would propably take the majority.


Drax the Legend, Captain of the Fist, The Starwalker, The Jade Slayer