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Daveym




This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!



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Lord Majestros




> This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
>
Lord Majestros:
Why would CM change himself back to his mortal form to escape the Ferris wheel when he could have just torn himself loose from it (steel is like tissue paper to someone of his strength)? This is especially stupid since CM has the Wisdom of Solomon.


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The Truth




He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.

> > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> >
> Lord Majestros:
> Why would CM change himself back to his mortal form to escape the Ferris wheel when he could have just torn himself loose from it (steel is like tissue paper to someone of his strength)? This is especially stupid since CM has the Wisdom of Solomon.


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Olympian




> He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.
>
> > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > >
> > Lord Majestros:
> > Why would CM change himself back to his mortal form to escape the Ferris wheel when he could have just torn himself loose from it (steel is like tissue paper to someone of his strength)? This is especially stupid since CM has the Wisdom of Solomon.


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The Truth




Those were the rules for those particular fights. If one of the combatants is unable to continue, even for a moment, they are forfeit. That is why Captain Amrvel says he cannot afford to be pinned down, even for a second.


> > He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.
> >
> > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > >
> > > Lord Majestros:
> > > Why would CM change himself back to his mortal form to escape the Ferris wheel when he could have just torn himself loose from it (steel is like tissue paper to someone of his strength)? This is especially stupid since CM has the Wisdom of Solomon.


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Daveym




> Those were the rules for those particular fights. If one of the combatants is unable to continue, even for a moment, they are forfeit. That is why Captain Amrvel says he cannot afford to be pinned down, even for a second.
>
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Agreed. The stakes are high enough for them to actually say a prayer at the start there, it does make sense in the full context of the story....

I thought it was an appropriate ending and good use of Thors sheer experience and vastly greater combat ability, it wasn't often he was credited with the intelligence at this time.


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Would Be Watcher




> This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
>


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Daveym




> > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> >
For reasons I already explained!

Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....

Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Astro




> > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > >
> For reasons I already explained!
>
> Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
>
> Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Daveym




> > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > >
> > For reasons I already explained!
> >
> > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> >
> > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Lord Majestros




> He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.
>
Lord Majestros:
In the time that it took him to think to himself, that he couldn't be trapped or he would lose th fight and THEN have to say the magic word, he could have already been free of the Ferris wheel. It's neither heavy enough nor durable enough to hold someone of CM's strength. Risking turning himself into a 16 year old kid with no powers when he could have just torn through the steel of the wheel as quickly (if not quicker) was stupid.


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Rehzon




> > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > >
> > For reasons I already explained!
> >
> > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> >
> > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Lord Majestros




> > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > >
> > For reasons I already explained!
> >
> > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> >
> > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)

Lord Majestros:
CM opting to turn himself into Billy when there was ZERO reason for him to do so was very contrived and took away from the fight as this decision was key to Thor's eventual win. Basically, the writer seemed fixated on the point of Thor blocking the lightning with Mjolnir (primarily it seems so that Wonder Woman could end up with it) and didn't really seem to care how he got to that point. On top of that, outside of Giffen (who writes the Marvels as naive morons) and whoever wrote the first Eclipsed Supes/Cap fight, CM is hardly written as just a kid with gifts.


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Daveym




> > He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.
> >
> Lord Majestros:
> In the time that it took him to think to himself, that he couldn't be trapped or he would lose th fight and THEN have to say the magic word, he could have already been free of the Ferris wheel. It's neither heavy enough nor durable enough to hold someone of CM's strength. Risking turning himself into a 16 year old kid with no powers when he could have just torn through the steel of the wheel as quickly (if not quicker) was stupid.

He obviously felt it was correct at that moment though with the stakes so monumental and the opponent so formidable... tapping into the wisdom of solomon doesn't make you Solomom and Billy often ignored simple common sense anyway! He's just a kid when alls said.
Does being able to tap into the abilities of Gods make you an actual god. I wonder...



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Lord Majestros




Lord Majestros:
Thor typically isn't written as a moron, but he's not written like someone with millennia of experience either. Not to mention that he was brash and headstrong for a LOT of his life which is what caused Odin to punish him until Blake found Mjolnir as a cane in that cave.


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Daveym




> Lord Majestros:
> Thor typically isn't written as a moron, but he's not written like someone with millennia of experience either. Not to mention that he was brash and headstrong for a LOT of his life which is what caused Odin to punish him until Blake found Mjolnir as a cane in that cave.

I agree on that!

but thru the 80s in Sterns Avengers and his own book he was treated as a mature warrior and adult. Ditto in the losing days of his last run... so it's one of those characters where it kind of depends on who shows up on the day - the mature adult or the petulant brawler >:-|


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Incriptus




And packing one of the top weapons in the universe . . . kinda like a heavy-weight boxer training in the middle of an elementry school \:\-D


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Olympian




> Those were the rules for those particular fights. If one of the combatants is unable to continue, even for a moment, they are forfeit. That is why Captain Amrvel says he cannot afford to be pinned down, even for a second.

Ah i understand, but its still...off. With his kind of strength a ferris wheel is nothing but papertin.
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> > > He did that because, were he to be held in place, even for a few seconds, the fight would have been considered over. He chose the most expedient escape that he could come up with under those circumstances. Making himself small enough to fit through the cracks.
> > >
> > > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > > >
> > > > Lord Majestros:
> > > > Why would CM change himself back to his mortal form to escape the Ferris wheel when he could have just torn himself loose from it (steel is like tissue paper to someone of his strength)? This is especially stupid since CM has the Wisdom of Solomon.


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Daveym




> > > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > > >
> > > For reasons I already explained!
> > >
> > > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> > >
> > > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)
>
> Lord Majestros:
> CM opting to turn himself into Billy when there was ZERO reason for him to do so was very contrived and took away from the fight as this decision was key to Thor's eventual win. Basically, the writer seemed fixated on the point of Thor blocking the lightning with Mjolnir (primarily it seems so that Wonder Woman could end up with it) and didn't really seem to care how he got to that point. On top of that, outside of Giffen (who writes the Marvels as naive morons) and whoever wrote the first Eclipsed Supes/Cap fight, CM is hardly written as just a kid with gifts.

Comics are just full of plot contrivances like this, As I said I'm sure CM has made silly decisions like that before \:\-\)


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Rehzon




> And packing one of the top weapons in the universe . . . kinda like a heavy-weight boxer training in the middle of an elementry school \:\-D


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slamMojo




Don't they teach anything anymore. Solomon was wisest MAN of his time.


> > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > >
> > For reasons I already explained!
> >
> > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> >
> > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Would Be Watcher




> > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > >
> For reasons I already explained!
>
> Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
>
> Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)


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Lord Majestros




> > > > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > > > >
> > > > For reasons I already explained!
> > > >
> > > > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> > > >
> > > > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)
> >
> > Lord Majestros:
> > CM opting to turn himself into Billy when there was ZERO reason for him to do so was very contrived and took away from the fight as this decision was key to Thor's eventual win. Basically, the writer seemed fixated on the point of Thor blocking the lightning with Mjolnir (primarily it seems so that Wonder Woman could end up with it) and didn't really seem to care how he got to that point. On top of that, outside of Giffen (who writes the Marvels as naive morons) and whoever wrote the first Eclipsed Supes/Cap fight, CM is hardly written as just a kid with gifts.
>
> Comics are just full of plot contrivances like this, As I said I'm sure CM has made silly decisions like that before \:\-\)

Lord Majestros:
In this example, CM CAN'T get loose and is being crushed and the ONLY chance he has of getting loose is to change back. Note, he even says, "Only one possible way--to save myself--!". Sorry, but being held by someone that is strong enough to crush you and you CAN'T get loose and being caught up in something you can tear through like tissue paper aren't even in the same ballpark ;-p. In "Legends" trying to change so he might be small enough to escape was the only choice he had, in "Marvel vs DC" he had another choice, just rip through the steel. If the choice is either change back to Billy or be crushed to death, changing to Billy is wise. If the choice is changing to Billy to escape being immobilized to avoid losing OR staying CM to escape being immobilized and to avoid losing, changing to Billy isn't even remotely the wise decision. Yes, I know comic characters don't always do the smart thing, but that doesn't make silly stuff any less silly. ESPECIALLY when it's the key to the outcome of a fight.


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Daveym




> > > > > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > For reasons I already explained!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> > > > >
> > > > > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)
> > >
> > > Lord Majestros:
> > > CM opting to turn himself into Billy when there was ZERO reason for him to do so was very contrived and took away from the fight as this decision was key to Thor's eventual win. Basically, the writer seemed fixated on the point of Thor blocking the lightning with Mjolnir (primarily it seems so that Wonder Woman could end up with it) and didn't really seem to care how he got to that point. On top of that, outside of Giffen (who writes the Marvels as naive morons) and whoever wrote the first Eclipsed Supes/Cap fight, CM is hardly written as just a kid with gifts.
> >
> > Comics are just full of plot contrivances like this, As I said I'm sure CM has made silly decisions like that before \:\-\)
>
> Lord Majestros:
> In this example, CM CAN'T get loose and is being crushed and the ONLY chance he has of getting loose is to change back. Note, he even says, "Only one possible way--to save myself--!". Sorry, but being held by someone that is strong enough to crush you and you CAN'T get loose and being caught up in something you can tear through like tissue paper aren't even in the same ballpark ;-p. In "Legends" trying to change so he might be small enough to escape was the only choice he had, in "Marvel vs DC" he had another choice, just rip through the steel. If the choice is either change back to Billy or be crushed to death, changing to Billy is wise. If the choice is changing to Billy to escape being immobilized to avoid losing OR staying CM to escape being immobilized and to losing, changing to Billy isn't even remotely the wise decision. Yes, I know comic characters don't always do the smart thing, but that doesn't make silly stuff any less silly. ESPECIALLY when it's the key to the outcome of a fight.

Well just imagine like any other comic book character who is in that predicament that Billy is not infallible and not using Solomons wisdom, which he doesn't always, or that that wisdom can give him a suggestion that turns out not to be so wise in the event!
Is it wise in the Macro-man example to change to billy when that fist has got you pinned and is crushing you relentlessly? No it is not. It's suicidal on the face of it.
But at that moment in that situation Billy thinks it's the best decision. He is not infallible and neither is he mature and experienced enough to have a point of reference to draw upon unlike say Superman or Thor who have fought innumerable battles and can adapt immediatly to a problem....



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Lord Majestros




> > > > > > > > This was probobly my favorite battle from the DC vs. Marvel mini, it felt Right!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > For reasons I already explained!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight in a plausible and convincing manner, unlike a lot of the other fights going on....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts, I had no problem with this fight \:\-\)
> > > >
> > > > Lord Majestros:
> > > > CM opting to turn himself into Billy when there was ZERO reason for him to do so was very contrived and took away from the fight as this decision was key to Thor's eventual win. Basically, the writer seemed fixated on the point of Thor blocking the lightning with Mjolnir (primarily it seems so that Wonder Woman could end up with it) and didn't really seem to care how he got to that point. On top of that, outside of Giffen (who writes the Marvels as naive morons) and whoever wrote the first Eclipsed Supes/Cap fight, CM is hardly written as just a kid with gifts.
> > >
> > > Comics are just full of plot contrivances like this, As I said I'm sure CM has made silly decisions like that before \:\-\)
> >
> > Lord Majestros:
> > In this example, CM CAN'T get loose and is being crushed and the ONLY chance he has of getting loose is to change back. Note, he even says, "Only one possible way--to save myself--!". Sorry, but being held by someone that is strong enough to crush you and you CAN'T get loose and being caught up in something you can tear through like tissue paper aren't even in the same ballpark ;-p. In "Legends" trying to change so he might be small enough to escape was the only choice he had, in "Marvel vs DC" he had another choice, just rip through the steel. If the choice is either change back to Billy or be crushed to death, changing to Billy is wise. If the choice is changing to Billy to escape being immobilized to avoid losing OR staying CM to escape being immobilized and to losing, changing to Billy isn't even remotely the wise decision. Yes, I know comic characters don't always do the smart thing, but that doesn't make silly stuff any less silly. ESPECIALLY when it's the key to the outcome of a fight.
>
> Well just imagine like any other comic book character who is in that predicament that Billy is not infallible and not using Solomons wisdom, which he doesn't always, or that that wisdom can give him a suggestion that turns out not to be so wise in the event!
> Is it wise in the Macro-man example to change to billy when that fist has got you pinned and is crushing you relentlessly? No it is not. It's suicidal on the face of it.
> But at that moment in that situation Billy thinks it's the best decision. He is not infallible and neither is he mature and experienced enough to have a point of reference to draw upon unlike say Superman or Thor who have fought innumerable battles and can adapt immediatly to a problem....
>
Lord Majestros:
Well, given that the lightning can and has damaged people and things Billy is close to when he changes (see most recent fight with Elipsed Superman for a good example). As CM, he was being crushed and he couldn't break the grip. He doesn't have heat vision or cold breath like Supes, so the lightning was his only option. If he stays CM, he gets crushed and dies. With the lightning there is chance the bolt will not only make him small enough to slip out but also make Macro-Man loosen his grip. Basically, it's a last ditch effort to save himself. Try something that MIGHT save you or try nothing and die. So again, turning into Billy with Macro-Man was the only alternative he had or do nothing and die. With Thor, he had another alternative that just so happens wouldn't have lead to Thor winning AND Wonder Woman ending up with Thor's hammer. Is Solomon's wisdom perfect, no. However, Billy's not usually written as a thick-headed teen either, he usually has a pretty good head on his shoulders. Also, I've seen CM trapped by something several times in continuity and what does he try to do first, break free. Even in the "Legends" example, he tried to turn to Billy because he COULD NOT get loose as CM. Also, note, per the "First Thunder" limited (which is in continuity), Superman hasn't been a hero much longer than Billy (Bats and Supes debuted in Gotham and Metropolis less than a year before CM came on the scene). The "He's young and inexperienced" thing with CM really doesn't hold water. Again, he's not Ultraverse's Prime, and outside of Giffen he's really not portrayed as the dopey teen that happens to have the body of a super powered adult. As for Supes vs Cap adapting to a situation, see scan \:\-\) (and this was in Supes's own book).


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J




It isnt just Giffen. Ordway writes him the same exact way. Geoff Johns doesnt exactly write him as a strategic genius, either... even Judd writes him with a youthful mind state.

The POINT of CM is that he *is* a 16yo kid in the grown body of a super hero... the Wisdom Of Solomon tempers his immaturity and helps him 'drive the car.'

Although, all this is pointless as Billy is now The Wizard anyway.


> >
> Lord Majestros:
> Well, given that the lightning can and has damaged people and things Billy is close to when he changes (see most recent fight with Elipsed Superman for a good example). As CM, he was being crushed and he couldn't break the grip. He doesn't have heat vision or cold breath like Supes, so the lightning was his only option. If he stays CM, he gets crushed and dies. With the lightning there is chance the bolt will not only make him small enough to slip out but also make Macro-Man loosen his grip. Basically, it's a last ditch effort to save himself. Try something that MIGHT save you or try nothing and die. So again, turning into Billy with Macro-Man was the only alternative he had or do nothing and die. With Thor, he had another alternative that just so happens wouldn't have lead to Thor winning AND Wonder Woman ending up with Thor's hammer. Is Solomon's wisdom perfect, no. However, Billy's not usually written as a thick-headed teen either, he usually has a pretty good head on his shoulders. Also, I've seen CM trapped by something several times in continuity and what does he try to do first, break free. Even in the "Legends" example, he tried to turn to Billy because he COULD NOT get loose as CM. Also, note, per the "First Thunder" limited (which is in continuity), Superman hasn't been a hero much longer than Billy (Bats and Supes debuted in Gotham and Metropolis less than a year before CM came on the scene). The "He's young and inexperienced" thing with CM really doesn't hold water. Again, he's not Ultraverse's Prime, and outside of Giffen he's really not portrayed as the dopey teen that happens to have the body of a super powered adult. As for Supes vs Cap adapting to a situation, see scan \:\-\) (and this was in Supes's own book).

"Diana is perfect, she just doesn't know it. And that makes her even more perfect."

Batman, JUSTICE


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Lord Majestros




> It isnt just Giffen. Ordway writes him the same exact way. Geoff Johns doesnt exactly write him as a strategic genius, either... even Judd writes him with a youthful mind state.
>
> The POINT of CM is that he *is* a 16yo kid in the grown body of a super hero... the Wisdom Of Solomon tempers his immaturity and helps him 'drive the car.'
>
> Although, all this is pointless as Billy is now The Wizard anyway.
>
Lord Majestros:
CM is a moron compared to Diana, Diana is more powerful than anyone but Superman or she's his equal (What day of the week is it?), DC says blah, blah, blah, Diana has been weakened since there has been a comic book industry, Diana is the abstract of wisdom and has Gaea's full power, (insert excuse) for any poor showing that being depowered might not cover, Diana has beaten Superman twice...TWICE, and so on and so forth. Did I hit enough of the usual to save you the trouble and save the board some space? If I didn't, let's just do this: Wonder Woman > Captain Marvel, that should hopefully cover everything. No, you didn't mention Diana, but pretty much anything you say about CM is really related to Diana.


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J




You just wasted some space now with this immature post. You could have replied to what I wrote OR you could have ignored me. But, nope, you decide to go on a Wonder Woman tirade and put words in my mouth. Nice move.

Like YOU so rightly pointed out: I didnt mention Diana. YOU did.


> Lord Majestros:
> CM is a moron compared to Diana, Diana is more powerful than anyone but Superman or she's his equal (What day of the week is it?), DC says blah, blah, blah, Diana has been weakened since there has been a comic book industry, Diana is the abstract of wisdom and has Gaea's full power, (insert excuse) for any poor showing that being depowered might not cover, Diana has beaten Superman twice...TWICE, and so on and so forth. Did I hit enough of the usual to save you the trouble and save the board some space? If I didn't, let's just do this: Wonder Woman > Captain Marvel, that should hopefully cover everything. No, you didn't mention Diana, but pretty much anything you say about CM is really related to Diana.

"Diana is perfect, she just doesn't know it. And that makes her even more perfect."

Batman, JUSTICE


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Daveym




> > It isnt just Giffen. Ordway writes him the same exact way. Geoff Johns doesnt exactly write him as a strategic genius, either... even Judd writes him with a youthful mind state.
> >
> > The POINT of CM is that he *is* a 16yo kid in the grown body of a super hero... the Wisdom Of Solomon tempers his immaturity and helps him 'drive the car.'
> >
> > Although, all this is pointless as Billy is now The Wizard anyway.
> >
> Lord Majestros:
> CM is a moron compared to Diana, Diana is more powerful than anyone but Superman or she's his equal (What day of the week is it?), DC says blah, blah, blah, Diana has been weakened since there has been a comic book industry, Diana is the abstract of wisdom and has Gaea's full power, (insert excuse) for any poor showing that being depowered might not cover, Diana has beaten Superman twice...TWICE, and so on and so forth. Did I hit enough of the usual to save you the trouble and save the board some space? If I didn't, let's just do this: Wonder Woman > Captain Marvel, that should hopefully cover everything. No, you didn't mention Diana, but pretty much anything you say about CM is really related to Diana.

Majestro's - My opinion of you has really gone down of late.

Has it not occured to you that there are sometimes two equally valid interpretations of an event?
You're interpretation & opinion is valid. So is mine.
Both are valid interpretations of a single event backed up with a further example, but you treat mine as an abberation & something to be scoffed at!

You can't have *everything* your own way you know.



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Lord Majestros




> > > It isnt just Giffen. Ordway writes him the same exact way. Geoff Johns doesnt exactly write him as a strategic genius, either... even Judd writes him with a youthful mind state.
> > >
> > > The POINT of CM is that he *is* a 16yo kid in the grown body of a super hero... the Wisdom Of Solomon tempers his immaturity and helps him 'drive the car.'
> > >
> > > Although, all this is pointless as Billy is now The Wizard anyway.
> > >
> > Lord Majestros:
> > CM is a moron compared to Diana, Diana is more powerful than anyone but Superman or she's his equal (What day of the week is it?), DC says blah, blah, blah, Diana has been weakened since there has been a comic book industry, Diana is the abstract of wisdom and has Gaea's full power, (insert excuse) for any poor showing that being depowered might not cover, Diana has beaten Superman twice...TWICE, and so on and so forth. Did I hit enough of the usual to save you the trouble and save the board some space? If I didn't, let's just do this: Wonder Woman > Captain Marvel, that should hopefully cover everything. No, you didn't mention Diana, but pretty much anything you say about CM is really related to Diana.
>
> Majestro's - My opinion of you has really gone down of late.
>
> Has it not occured to you that there are sometimes two equally valid interpretations of an event?
> You're interpretation & opinion is valid. So is mine.
> Both are valid interpretations of a single event backed up with a further example, but you treat mine as an abberation & something to be scoffed at!
>
> You can't have *everything* your own way you know.
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Lord Majestros:
As I told you the last time you said basically the same thing. You giving your opinion on something and me disagreeing with it and telling you WHY I disagree with it is NO DIFFERENT than you doing the same to me. With this, your position was that you liked the CM/Thor because it felt "right". You went on to explain why you thought it felt right because "Thor is a real God and used his experience and abilities to win this fight" while CM "Cap is a Kid who can tap into certain gifts". Astro's reply to you was basically disagreeing with your position. I replied to Astro and agreed with him and explained why I agreed with him THE SAME WAY YOU EXPLAINED YOUR POSITION. Then YOU posted scans to further support/explain your position in direct response to me. If you didn't post the scan from "Legends" to support your stance on "Marvel vs DC", then what did you post them for? I then explained WHY I disagreed with the comparison you were making of the two examples. Basically if you think it's OK for you to disagree with my position and cite examples that you think support your position and I can't do the same, you really need to grow up. This is the bottom line question you clearly REALLY need to ask yourself, when I stated my opinion did you reply, "Hey, that's a valid opinion", NO. You posted scans to support YOUR opinion, YOU GAVE A COUNTERPOINT. Me citing the differences between CM-Macro-Man and CM/Thor in response is just that, A COUNTERPOINT. In a nutshell, you weren't disagreeing with my opinion any less than I was disagreeing with yours. I'm curious, when Astro replied to you, "But he's got the wisdom of a true god of wisdom...were as Thor is anything but. NT" in response to what I quoted from you above, do you think he was agreeing with you? Point being, everyone IS NOT going to agree with you. Not only that, people can and will think you are COMPLETELY wrong. Do you think Maestro thinks any stance on Hulk/Gladiator is any less wrong than I think his is? Do you think J thinks my stance on CM and WW is any less wrong than I think his is? Replace any two posters on any number of subjects and the answer will be the same.


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