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Levi




alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash


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GN




Spidey's sense may sense the danger, but Flash would still be quicker than his reaction.

GN


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Mr. NoTalk




> Spidey's sense may sense the danger, but Flash would still be quicker than his reaction.
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> GN


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Maestro




> alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash


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GN




But my gut reaction is no. Flash can approach lightspeed if needed. Peter, no matter what enhancements, can't match that.

OTOH If Peter can keep conscious for a good period of time, may be able to figure out a way to beat Wally. In terms of intelligence, Pete wins it handily.

GN


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JoeX




> alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash


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Big Bad




> alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash

on paper, Flash should win easily. In practice, however, Flash is the same guy that has trouble with the likes of Mirror Master and Captain Cold. Wally only seems to really use his powers to their full extent when he's facing a JLA-level threat. If he doesn't take Spidey seriously at first (which is possible given Spidey's wisecracks), then an upset could happen.


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Lord Majestros




> alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash

Lord Majestros:
Historically, Spidey has had a lot of trouble with people that are no where as fast as Flash like Speed Demon and Quicksilver (at his pre-Isotope E speed). However, if it were to happen I could easily see it being written like the Spidey/Quicksilver fight below where Wally would be wearing Peter out, but gets sloppy and Peter is able to pull out a win.


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Maestro




> > alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash
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> Lord Majestros:
> Historically, Spidey has had a lot of trouble with people that are no where as fast as Flash like Speed Demon and Quicksilver (at his pre-Isotope E speed). However, if it were to happen I could easily see it being written like the Spidey/Quicksilver fight below where Wally would be wearing Peter out, but gets sloppy and Peter is able to pull out a win.

Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.


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dave




> > Spidey's sense may sense the danger, but Flash would still be quicker than his reaction.
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> > GN


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dave




> Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.

First of all, Spidey is written much faster than he was in those days. Regardless, saying Flash fights at light speed is retarded. He would destroy everything around him even if it were possible to move that fast. Second, he never fights at this speed. A max running speed isn't the same as fighting speed. Otherwise, his lame villains would never be able to beat him.

That said, I think Flash should take it. He'd have better luck just grabbing baseball bat then to try hitting a guy much more durable than him. I think that Spidey's reflexes and spidey sense can let him hang with a lot of speedsters, but Flash is the king speedster.


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Los




> > Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.
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> First of all, Spidey is written much faster than he was in those days. Regardless, saying Flash fights at light speed is retarded. He would destroy everything around him even if it were possible to move that fast. Second, he never fights at this speed. A max running speed isn't the same as fighting speed. Otherwise, his lame villains would never be able to beat him.
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> That said, I think Flash should take it. He'd have better luck just grabbing baseball bat then to try hitting a guy much more durable than him. I think that Spidey's reflexes and spidey sense can let him hang with a lot of speedsters, but Flash is the king speedster.


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Los




> > alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash


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Lord Majestros




Lord Majestros:
If Speed Demon (who is no where near as fast as Flash) could stand right in front of Spidey and he couldn't land a punch on him (see scan), Spidey couldn't touch Flash \:\-\) . Basically, without either character being dumbed down, Flash destroys Spider-Man.


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Mr. NoTalk




> > > Spidey's sense may sense the danger, but Flash would still be quicker than his reaction.
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> > > GN


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dave




> Lord Majestros:
> If Speed Demon (who is no where near as fast as Flash) could stand right in front of Spidey and he couldn't land a punch on him (see scan), Spidey couldn't touch Flash \:\-\) . Basically, without either character being dumbed down, Flash destroys Spider-Man.

Spidey is written much faster these days (and has had two powerups) so I think he'd do better against a speedster. Spidey was doing ok against a speed demon that was way faster than he originally was. The point is that when it comes to speedsters, the degree never matters. Quicksilver was written as moving so fast that that he could barely be seen even when he could only run a couple hundred mph. A guy like spiderman should be able to match those speeds in the short distance, but oh well.

Doesn't matter if it is Flash or Triathlon. Speedsters always perform the same.


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dave




> > > > Spidey's sense may sense the danger, but Flash would still be quicker than his reaction.
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> > > > GN

First, agility and speed are somewhat related. You can't be superhumanly agile and not have some superhuman speed. Agility is a little more important in a close up fist fight than being able to run mach one. That said, Spidey has demonstrated super speed before. The problem is that, aside from a few "he's so fast" references, this was never displayed in the silver age.




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Grubs




> alright who would win. Think spiderman sense work fast enough for the flash

And I think not.


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Maestro




> > Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.
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> First of all, Spidey is written much faster than he was in those days. Regardless, saying Flash fights at light speed is retarded. He would destroy everything around him even if it were possible to move that fast. Second, he never fights at this speed. A max running speed isn't the same as fighting speed. Otherwise, his lame villains would never be able to beat him.
>

First off, I don't care how fast Spidey is written. He has no chance against someone who can move faster than thought. It is the Writer who usually makes Flash do dumb things in order to allow himself to be caught.

Second, the Speed force that surrounds Wally allows him to move at very high speeds (approaching light) without destroying everything around him. It somehow suspends the laws of physics (even for comics) allowing Flash to go from near light speed to being able to stop on a dime.

Third, I never said he fights at light speed... I was just comparing top speeds between him and Quick Silver. That said, when Wally throws something like 100,000 punches a second (which we have seen him do all the time) then his hand movements must be fairly close to light speed.

Fourth, the reason why lame Villains can beat him is (as I mentioned in the post) because the majority of Writers have great difficulty making a fight competitive between Super speedsters and non-speedsters. Hence the reason why Wally usually finds the dumbest ways to lose.

> That said, I think Flash should take it. He'd have better luck just grabbing baseball bat then to try hitting a guy much more durable than him. I think that Spidey's reflexes and spidey sense can let him hang with a lot of speedsters, but Flash is the king speedster.

Flash has pounded on Superboy Prime and White Martians in the past without hurting his fists. When in the Speed force Flash becomes very durable allowing him to break Granite with his bare hands when moving at super speed. He should be able to KO Spidey with a couple of punches but no Writer would generally allow that... the whole "competitive" thing again.


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gumbo




> > Lord Majestros:
> > If Speed Demon (who is no where near as fast as Flash) could stand right in front of Spidey and he couldn't land a punch on him (see scan), Spidey couldn't touch Flash \:\-\) . Basically, without either character being dumbed down, Flash destroys Spider-Man.
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> Spidey is written much faster these days (and has had two powerups) so I think he'd do better against a speedster. Spidey was doing ok against a speed demon that was way faster than he originally was. The point is that when it comes to speedsters, the degree never matters. Quicksilver was written as moving so fast that that he could barely be seen even when he could only run a couple hundred mph. A guy like spiderman should be able to match those speeds in the short distance, but oh well.
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> Doesn't matter if it is Flash or Triathlon. Speedsters always perform the same.

True in comics; it doesn't matter how fast they are, speed of sound or speed of light, the bad guy always gets in that one hit and the hero always manages to get the win.




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