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Anima Spiritia




specifically the ones who seem to elude "Parker Luck" moments as well winning all the time. does it actually get in the way of character development and reader interest?




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bd2999




> specifically the ones who seem to elude "Parker Luck" moments as well winning all the time. does it actually get in the way of character development and reader interest?

I think it can definatly. If a hero can beat any threat without much danger to himself than what is the point. Doing good is great and we all want to see the hero save the day, unless we have started to like that particular villan more, but if the hero comes in and beats up a guy easily who used to be a challenge than what is the point. Its fine to give power ups and whatever, but you have to give new threats. Everyone needs to have humbling appearances and such from time to time.
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Daveym




> specifically the ones who seem to elude "Parker Luck" moments as well winning all the time. does it actually get in the way of character development and reader interest?
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I used to hate Batman for that. So overwritten and always right, always so nauseuatingly infallible. Thankfully they pulled back on it to an extent and i can actually admire him once more!


I guess the outright no-contest winner of this sort of Question (For me) would have to be dear old Wolverine, a character once enigmatic and cool as hell but then systematically pimped up to such a hideous degree that makes WWHulk look like a naughty schoolboy.
Every time I think he can't get any worse along comes another issue where he utterly owns Captain America/The Avengers/Namor/Apocalypse/Batman.... his overexposure became so great it was even joked about in the books!! \:\-\(



"LOL ...LMAO...*wink*... Guffaw... *sigh*..." (etc etc...)

...Oh, Did i say lol BTW? *rhe*



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Would Be Watcher




> specifically the ones who seem to elude "Parker Luck" moments as well winning all the time. does it actually get in the way of character development and reader interest?
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Ubber popular characters are nearly always sure to get too much of it. Sometimes tho it can backfire into devellopping impopularity amongs some fans.

Superman get incredible respect but is victim of being the measuring stick whitch can cause him to be a punching bag just to demonstrate how powerful the new guy is... and sometimes the punching bag period is long... too long. But I generaly agree he got ubber respect. But being Iconic will do that. From the POV of a non fan I can see why they view it as too much some times. But hey since I'M sure plentyyyyy of people are going to puke on him I'll stop here and let them do a better job then me. ;-p

Wolverine also has ubber respect and treatement even in the middle of the likes of super popular x-mens.

Batman also got the iconic treatment and is one of the rare guys who can touch superman despite having no freeking business in his ballpark. I love batman in HIS comic. Outside of it I would murder him times upon times.


Hulk when, it comes to strenght, got the political treatement too. No matter who you are you will be smashed. Sometimes its stretching the "incredible" out of the hulk a bit too far. Pak, IMHO, went too far. Much like many could say casey went too far with supes... I vote for casey writing both hulk and superman. My life on the BB would be soooo nice and funny \:\-D


Thor and surfer are a mixed bag. They get both too much and too little respect. They get too little when they job like idiots but too much when they portray them as arrogant bastard that SHOULD win due to their *ahem* divine/cosmic heritage. You are powerful but... I am a *GOD*/I am POWER lame one liner. Every time I read something like that I wish them a mast and a sledge hammer respectively. But honestly where I feel they get too much respect is on this board. They should have plenty of respect but sometimes it goes beyond reasonable. My feeling on the subject anyway.

Doom can get too respect too sometimes. Insert 'prep' in a sentence and its a win for doom. Lame, very lame. Sometimes, writers should be less lazy with him.



The supreme winner IMHO is definatly... THANOS. That bastard I originally like beacause that style of villain always appeal me but writers are breast feeding him literally nearly all the times. Nothing is too good to show him in a good light. (Man will I get flame for this lol )

there are probably many others but thats my contribution. \:\-D



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Jaysin1414




> I guess the outright no-contest winner of this sort of Question (For me) would have to be dear old Wolverine, a character once enigmatic and cool as hell but then systematically pimped up to such a hideous degree that makes WWHulk look like a naughty schoolboy.
> Every time I think he can't get any worse along comes another issue where he utterly owns Captain America/The Avengers/Namor/Apocalypse/Batman.... his overexposure became so great it was even joked about in the books!! \:\-\(


While your analysis of Wolverine is spot-on the VAST majority of the time, the beating he took in WWH was thorough enough to pull him back from the edge of TOTAL over-respect.

Other than that redeeming beating, however, he would definitely take the cake for too much respect in Marvel. Too little respect would probably be Ms. Marvel if you asked me. She's probably much closer to top-tier than people give her credit, and then she got one-shotted in WWH for no good reason...

For DC, I'd say Superman. While I agree with the poster that said he's used as a punching bag measuring stick, all too often he still outdistances those trying to measure up. Too little respect in DC would be Firestorm. He could literally walk through over 75% of DC's characters without breaking a sweat, but he's tragically disrespected.



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dave




> specifically the ones who seem to elude "Parker Luck" moments as well winning all the time. does it actually get in the way of character development and reader interest?
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I agree on the Batman and Wolverine points below. However, since you brought up Spider-man, I think he's a unique one. The odd thing about him is that he's always fighting at the level of his opponent. Spidey could be fighting a bum on the street and still have a few problems yet still take on a class 100 villain and do just as well. I think that in his case he is traditionally underwritten but has select moments of being overwritten (in terms of ability). I really hate saying him look incompetent as a hero. He should really be above that by now. It's ok to make mistakes but sometimes he comes out looking like a clown.


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Incriptus




Nice armor I made one when I was 10 . . . Well I made mine when I was 7 . . . and on cough medicine, and had an ingrown toenail.

Transinfinite cosmic power vs Arm-Bar




I also hate Ademous Cho . . . you know if he was against the hulk in WWH the series would have probably been a panel and a half.


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> Nice armor I made one when I was 10 . . . Well I made mine when I was 7 . . . and on cough medicine, and had an ingrown toenail.
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> > Nice armor I made one when I was 10 . . . Well I made mine when I was 7 . . . and on cough medicine, and had an ingrown toenail.
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Nemo




> Nice armor I made one when I was 10 . . . Well I made mine when I was 7 . . . and on cough medicine, and had an ingrown toenail.
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I agree on both counts. The first one is just silly, the second is Mary Sue sad.


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