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Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today

2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation

3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing

4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor

5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus


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Daveym 

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> Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

> 1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today
Thor gets owned. So far we've seen him barely hold his ground with The Destroyer, get a beating Via Bor, Get mugged by the Red Hulk and get a fight out of that super skrull in the Secret Invasion mini....
Superboy on the other hand has physically moved planets, been seen to be faster than Superman & Co, the only one known to resist being exiled into the Phantom Zone and has yet to be seen facing any physical challenge whatsoever in the DCU - the kid is absolutely the last word on physical power.

> 2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation
Superboy has so far ignore Zauriels power (an Angel) and ignored Mordru - a sorceror more powerful than strange himself!
Even with this prep i don't fancy Stranges chances, Removal to another dimension is about his only option but Superboy isn't going to make that easy.

> 3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing
At his highest showing Surfer might just have a chance, the thing is Superboys invulnerability is so absolute I don't see the vast majority of the Surfers assaults affecting him much. Superboy was dismissing the GL Corps attacks and even shrugged off the Guardians assault.
We know the Surfer can drain energy but in the time it takes him to do it Superboy is going to be onto him and there's no way Surfer can take a beating off this particular opponent.... Superboy is going to be extremely dominant in that context and while the Surfer is more mobile out in space Superboy too is known to have superman-level speed so it's not that big a gap there either.

> 4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor
Again I'm not seeing The Destroyer as being powerful enough. Even with Thor in it. The only weapon it has that may be a significant threat is the Disintergration beam, and that's if Prime is charitable enough to let him get the time needed to get the shot off...
I don't think Prime can physically break the Armour but he has a lot more in the way of speed & mobility and we do know the spirit inhabiting the armour can be shook out in the right circumstances....
I favor Superboy, if only by eventual BFR.

> 5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin
Anything could happen. Superboy can provenly take vast punishment and if/when Odin gets hit by Prime he's going down!
The level of power it would take Odin to hurt the kid is so high he won't reach the required level quickly enough before Superboy is onto him. Odin is far from invulnerable...

> 7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming
The Watcher, via BFR.

> 6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus
Well given Primes powerlevel I can actually see a case for him beating Galactus, it depends which version shows up.
On average Galactus has proved he is not absolutely invulnerable and can be hurt, Superboy has been seen to take on Monarchs power pretty handily and a case for either winning can be made here. The way he tore thru the Anti-Monitor and dismissed him is a reasonably good parallell.... just how long can Galactus survive i wonder...






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MacGruder





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    Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today

    2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation

    3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing

    4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor

    5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

    7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

    6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus


I put SBP above Thanos but below skyfather. I think he has the power of a skyfather in terms of raw strength, but not the vast assortment of different types of power. That being said, I think SBP could defeat a skyfather who's not using his power set wisely.


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MacGruder





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      Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

      1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today

      2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation

      3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing

      4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor

      5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

      7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

      6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus


    I put SBP above Thanos but below skyfather. I think he has the power of a skyfather in terms of raw strength, but not the vast assortment of different types of power. That being said, I think SBP could defeat a skyfather who's not using his power set wisely.


I should follow up on this, though. When SBP became Superman Prime via absorbing a Guardian's power, THAT version of Prime was definately Odin level.


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Bootch 

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    > Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    > 1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today
    Thor gets owned. So far we've seen him barely hold his ground with The Destroyer, get a beating Via Bor, Get mugged by the Red Hulk and get a fight out of that super skrull in the Secret Invasion mini....
    Superboy on the other hand has physically moved planets, been seen to be faster than Superman & Co, the only one known to resist being exiled into the Phantom Zone and has yet to be seen facing any physical challenge whatsoever in the DCU - the kid is absolutely the last word on physical power.

    > 2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation
    Superboy has so far ignore Zauriels power (an Angel) and ignored Mordru - a sorceror more powerful than strange himself!
    Even with this prep i don't fancy Stranges chances, Removal to another dimension is about his only option but Superboy isn't going to make that easy.

    > 3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing
    At his highest showing Surfer might just have a chance, the thing is Superboys invulnerability is so absolute I don't see the vast majority of the Surfers assaults affecting him much. Superboy was dismissing the GL Corps attacks and even shrugged off the Guardians assault.
    We know the Surfer can drain energy but in the time it takes him to do it Superboy is going to be onto him and there's no way Surfer can take a beating off this particular opponent.... Superboy is going to be extremely dominant in that context and while the Surfer is more mobile out in space Superboy too is known to have superman-level speed so it's not that big a gap there either.

    > 4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor
    Again I'm not seeing The Destroyer as being powerful enough. Even with Thor in it. The only weapon it has that may be a significant threat is the Disintergration beam, and that's if Prime is charitable enough to let him get the time needed to get the shot off...
    I don't think Prime can physically break the Armour but he has a lot more in the way of speed & mobility and we do know the spirit inhabiting the armour can be shook out in the right circumstances....
    I favor Superboy, if only by eventual BFR.

    > 5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin
    Anything could happen. Superboy can provenly take vast punishment and if/when Odin gets hit by Prime he's going down!
    The level of power it would take Odin to hurt the kid is so high he won't reach the required level quickly enough before Superboy is onto him. Odin is far from invulnerable...

    > 7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming
    The Watcher, via BFR.

    > 6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus
    Well given Primes powerlevel I can actually see a case for him beating Galactus, it depends which version shows up.
    On average Galactus has proved he is not absolutely invulnerable and can be hurt, Superboy has been seen to take on Monarchs power pretty handily and a case for either winning can be made here. The way he tore thru the Anti-Monitor and dismissed him is a reasonably good parallell.... just how long can Galactus survive i wonder...






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Spider-Hulk





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      > Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

      > 1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today
      Thor gets owned. So far we've seen him barely hold his ground with The Destroyer, get a beating Via Bor, Get mugged by the Red Hulk and get a fight out of that super skrull in the Secret Invasion mini....
      Superboy on the other hand has physically moved planets, been seen to be faster than Superman & Co, the only one known to resist being exiled into the Phantom Zone and has yet to be seen facing any physical challenge whatsoever in the DCU - the kid is absolutely the last word on physical power.

      > 2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation
      Superboy has so far ignore Zauriels power (an Angel) and ignored Mordru - a sorceror more powerful than strange himself!
      Even with this prep i don't fancy Stranges chances, Removal to another dimension is about his only option but Superboy isn't going to make that easy.

      > 3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing
      At his highest showing Surfer might just have a chance, the thing is Superboys invulnerability is so absolute I don't see the vast majority of the Surfers assaults affecting him much. Superboy was dismissing the GL Corps attacks and even shrugged off the Guardians assault.
      We know the Surfer can drain energy but in the time it takes him to do it Superboy is going to be onto him and there's no way Surfer can take a beating off this particular opponent.... Superboy is going to be extremely dominant in that context and while the Surfer is more mobile out in space Superboy too is known to have superman-level speed so it's not that big a gap there either.

      > 4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor
      Again I'm not seeing The Destroyer as being powerful enough. Even with Thor in it. The only weapon it has that may be a significant threat is the Disintergration beam, and that's if Prime is charitable enough to let him get the time needed to get the shot off...
      I don't think Prime can physically break the Armour but he has a lot more in the way of speed & mobility and we do know the spirit inhabiting the armour can be shook out in the right circumstances....
      I favor Superboy, if only by eventual BFR.

      > 5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin
      Anything could happen. Superboy can provenly take vast punishment and if/when Odin gets hit by Prime he's going down!
      The level of power it would take Odin to hurt the kid is so high he won't reach the required level quickly enough before Superboy is onto him. Odin is far from invulnerable...

      > 7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming
      The Watcher, via BFR.

      > 6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus
      Well given Primes powerlevel I can actually see a case for him beating Galactus, it depends which version shows up.
      On average Galactus has proved he is not absolutely invulnerable and can be hurt, Superboy has been seen to take on Monarchs power pretty handily and a case for either winning can be made here. The way he tore thru the Anti-Monitor and dismissed him is a reasonably good parallell.... just how long can Galactus survive i wonder...





I also agree here with the above. Since I've been posting on the forum here I thought I would endevour to learn a bit more about the high end showings of certain characters I was not overtly knowledgeable about, and with a bit of help from my local comic shop, Ebay, and my first cousin... I've learned enough to know that Superboy Prime is probably going to crush those guys even all at the same time. That is some power and serious mojo that guy commands...


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Nucleon





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    Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today


SBP; Thor likes to go physical, and here he will lose.


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    2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation


Strange, without the shadow of a doubt.


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    3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing


SBP Cannot beat a well-writen Surfer, in any aspect.


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    4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor


I don't think the inhabiter makes such a difference, the Destroyer still is a physical being. SBP wins this one.


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    5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

    7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

    6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus


SBP lose all of these. While he is DC's End to everything physical, most of these Marvels guys don't necessarly live by DC physics, and if SBP's got power in magnitude, he does not have it in scope like Marvel's bunch.

Long story short; Comes a time when flying very fast to punch something just doesn't cut it.


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MacGruder





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      Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

      1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today


    SBP; Thor likes to go physical, and here he will lose.


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      2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation


    Strange, without the shadow of a doubt.


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      3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing


    SBP Cannot beat a well-writen Surfer, in any aspect.


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      4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor


    I don't think the inhabiter makes such a difference, the Destroyer still is a physical being. SBP wins this one.


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      5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

      7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

      6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus


    SBP lose all of these. While he is DC's End to everything physical, most of these Marvels guys don't necessarly live by DC physics, and if SBP's got power in magnitude, he does not have it in scope like Marvel's bunch.

    Long story short; Comes a time when flying very fast to punch something just doesn't cut it.



Silver Surfer should be TOAA level if well written, so of course.


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Nucleon





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    Silver Surfer should be TOAA level if well written, so of course.


Here is how I view this myself (for what it's worth):
 
In terms of power scope, he rivals indeed Celestials, althought his influence is limited depending on power sources; he seems to have a harder time manipulating mystic/immortal/cosmic power users, like Thor, Thanos or Terrax.
 
In terms of power magnitude, he is about above average, no more, althought he can feed on another source, but even then, he cannot hope to compare to TOAA...



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MacGruder





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      Silver Surfer should be TOAA level if well written, so of course.


    Here is how I view this myself (for what it's worth):
     
    In terms of power scope, he rivals indeed Celestials, althought his influence is limited depending on power sources; he seems to have a harder time manipulating mystic/immortal/cosmic power users, like Thor, Thanos or Terrax.
     
    In terms of power magnitude, he is about above average, no more, althought he can feed on another source, but even then, he cannot hope to compare to TOAA...


Haha, but you admitted yourself that his power scope rivals a Celestial's. And given that the Dreaming Celestial just became a rival to TOAA in power, it all makes sense.


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Superboy-Prime


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    > Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    > 1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today
    Thor gets owned. So far we've seen him barely hold his ground with The Destroyer, get a beating Via Bor, Get mugged by the Red Hulk and get a fight out of that super skrull in the Secret Invasion mini....
    Superboy on the other hand has physically moved planets, been seen to be faster than Superman & Co, the only one known to resist being exiled into the Phantom Zone and has yet to be seen facing any physical challenge whatsoever in the DCU - the kid is absolutely the last word on physical power.

    > 2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation
    Superboy has so far ignore Zauriels power (an Angel) and ignored Mordru - a sorceror more powerful than strange himself!
    Even with this prep i don't fancy Stranges chances, Removal to another dimension is about his only option but Superboy isn't going to make that easy.

    > 3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing
    At his highest showing Surfer might just have a chance, the thing is Superboys invulnerability is so absolute I don't see the vast majority of the Surfers assaults affecting him much. Superboy was dismissing the GL Corps attacks and even shrugged off the Guardians assault.
    We know the Surfer can drain energy but in the time it takes him to do it Superboy is going to be onto him and there's no way Surfer can take a beating off this particular opponent.... Superboy is going to be extremely dominant in that context and while the Surfer is more mobile out in space Superboy too is known to have superman-level speed so it's not that big a gap there either.

    > 4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor
    Again I'm not seeing The Destroyer as being powerful enough. Even with Thor in it. The only weapon it has that may be a significant threat is the Disintergration beam, and that's if Prime is charitable enough to let him get the time needed to get the shot off...
    I don't think Prime can physically break the Armour but he has a lot more in the way of speed & mobility and we do know the spirit inhabiting the armour can be shook out in the right circumstances....
    I favor Superboy, if only by eventual BFR.

    > 5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin
    Anything could happen. Superboy can provenly take vast punishment and if/when Odin gets hit by Prime he's going down!
    The level of power it would take Odin to hurt the kid is so high he won't reach the required level quickly enough before Superboy is onto him. Odin is far from invulnerable...

    > 7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming
    The Watcher, via BFR.

    > 6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus
    Well given Primes powerlevel I can actually see a case for him beating Galactus, it depends which version shows up.
    On average Galactus has proved he is not absolutely invulnerable and can be hurt, Superboy has been seen to take on Monarchs power pretty handily and a case for either winning can be made here. The way he tore thru the Anti-Monitor and dismissed him is a reasonably good parallell.... just how long can Galactus survive i wonder...








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AnthSand


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Fundamentally what it comes down to is power.

Is Superboy Prime powerful enough to be considered in the class of those listed?

Based on his consistent portrayals, absolutely.

So if in the same power class, does their superior versatility in the use of their powers give them the win over Prime?

No, not necessarily.  Although Prime has a limited powerset, the set itself is at such a high level that (and possibly at higher levels than those listed, although in the same class) may give him the advantage (i.e., consistent use of speed, strength and resistance to magic). 

Is Prime's powerset at such a level that he can overcome those on the list?

From Anti-Monitors, to Mordrus, to Guardians, to Monarchs to universe-destroying blasts, the kid's still fighting mad.


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Would be Watcher


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    Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today


Current Thor isn't the Thor that was supposed to say adios to the readers and was given candy like there was no tomorow. He isn't rune Thor anymore. He is extremely powerful but I don't see him tackling what SBP could and look good. He isn't wanted on that level... Still he would account himself most honorably I think.


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    2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation


The prep can do miracle in comics... and Strange would need it. But I'm sure the Dr. could find something even tho SBP doesn't suffer from magical "weakness" like others of his race... ask Mordru. Mordru is an excellent power level marker to understand Strange chances...


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    3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing


Unless you mean keeper surfer I don't see Norrin winning straight on... ever. Again the game would be find the weakness and use it or loose.


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    4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor


Now thats different. Thor inside the destroyer would be hard to injure and benefit from an extremely hight offensive capability... he should eventually win. Can he dammage the destroyer? Who knows! If it's possible to do so with blows he sure is as good a candidate as it's possible to find one... Anyway, I think Thor win this one.


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    5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin


I think Odin would have it harder than he had it with Thanos but he would still win in the end. Still I can see him winning depending on performences... The kid was VERY scary even against opponent of clearly above "herald" lining. For the shake of arguments I still think Odin would win. Althought he would have to take Prime seriously.


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    7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming


Same as Odin unless it's glass jaw watcher who appears... see RHulk... Whatver Rhulk could do SBP could do it better easily IMO.


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    6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus



Galactus SHOULD win. Then again it should have been the case so many times before...



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Would be Watcher


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Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008




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    Fundamentally what it comes down to is power.

    Is Superboy Prime powerful enough to be considered in the class of those listed?

    Based on his consistent portrayals, absolutely.

    So if in the same power class, does their superior versatility in the use of their powers give them the win over Prime?

    No, not necessarily.  Although Prime has a limited powerset, the set itself is at such a high level that (and possibly at higher levels than those listed, although in the same class) may give him the advantage (i.e., consistent use of speed, strength and resistance to magic). 

    Is Prime's powerset at such a level that he can overcome those on the list?

    From Anti-Monitors, to Mordrus, to Guardians, to Monarchs to universe-destroying blasts, the kid's still fighting mad.




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AnthSand


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1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today

Current Thor isn't the Thor that was supposed to say adios to the readers and was given candy like there was no tomorow. He isn't rune Thor anymore. He is extremely powerful but I don't see him tackling what SBP could and look good. He isn't wanted on that level... Still he would account himself most honorably I think.

I agree; Thor certainly would give an honorable accounting of himself. Classic Thor's rogue gallery was many times out of his league, yet he found ways to win. In the scenario with Prime, I think it's Prime's fight to lose.


2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation


The prep can do miracle in comics... and Strange would need it. But I'm sure the Dr. could find something even tho SBP doesn't suffer from magical "weakness" like others of his race... ask Mordru. Mordru is an excellent power level marker to understand Strange chances...

Well said.

3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing


Unless you mean keeper surfer I don't see Norrin winning straight on... ever. Again the game would be find the weakness and use it or loose.

Good point.  But given Surfer's ability to exploit power sources, environment and his PC, I think he does pretty well.  Don't get me wrong, he'll lose, but he'll do well.


4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor

Now thats different. Thor inside the destroyer would be hard to injure and benefit from an extremely hight offensive capability... he should eventually win. Can he dammage the destroyer? Who knows! If it's possible to do so with blows he sure is as good a candidate as it's possible to find one... Anyway, I think Thor win this one.

I disagree.  I think Prime's durability (especially surviving a blast that destroyed a city... no a country... no a planet... no a... ahhh, you get where I'm going) is high enough to survive the worse the Destroyer can throw at him. 


5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin


I think Odin would have it harder than he had it with Thanos but he would still win in the end. Still I can see him winning depending on performences... The kid was VERY scary even against opponent of clearly above "herald" lining. For the shake of arguments I still think Odin would win. Althought he would have to take Prime seriously.


7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming


Same as Odin unless it's glass jaw watcher who appears... see RHulk... Whatver Rhulk could do SBP could do it better easily IMO.

6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus



Galactus SHOULD win. Then again it should have been the case so many times before...

On a serious note, I would love to see Galactus consistently portrayed the way he was in the Annihilation mini...  Now that's a character worth fearing!


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Maestro





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    Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today

    I think most people would back SBP in a straight fight here and with good reason.

    2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation

    Dr. Strange with a couple days prep was stalemating an Infinity Gauntlet wearing Adam Warlock. IMO its downright naive for anyone to think that SBP isn't going down against the Sorcerer Supreme if he gets 2 weeks to prepare.

    3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing

    Surfer has the easiest and quickest fight on this list. Without question Surfer can't win hand to hand but at his highest showing (as opposed to his average) it will be a cinch for Norrin to detect the yellow radiation reserves in Prime's body and the fact that this is whats powering him. An "eye blink" later, SS transmute the yellow reserves to red/green/purple/whatever and Prime is done for. Nuff said.

    4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor

    I doubt Prime has what it takes to damage the Armor while on the other hand even Prime is not going to be able to shake off untold Godblasts (the Thor Destroyer is still wielding Mjolnir), disintegration beams, etc... forever. It will be a long drawn out fight but the Destroyer eventually wins through attrition.

    5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin

    If Odin is serious, he takes this. But the key is not to mess around and try to "test his opponent's mettle" as he did against Thanos.

    7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming

    Uatu banishes him to the end of time.

    6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus

    Galactus



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Marvelfan




stands a chance against a fully-fed Galactus who can move entire star systems.


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    > Ok, what is the opinion about how powerful Superboy Prime really is?

    > 1) Superboy Prime vs. current Thor at highest power level shown today
    Thor gets owned. So far we've seen him barely hold his ground with The Destroyer, get a beating Via Bor, Get mugged by the Red Hulk and get a fight out of that super skrull in the Secret Invasion mini....
    Superboy on the other hand has physically moved planets, been seen to be faster than Superman & Co, the only one known to resist being exiled into the Phantom Zone and has yet to be seen facing any physical challenge whatsoever in the DCU - the kid is absolutely the last word on physical power.

    > 2) Superboy Prime vs. Dr. Strange with 2 weeks preparation
    Superboy has so far ignore Zauriels power (an Angel) and ignored Mordru - a sorceror more powerful than strange himself!
    Even with this prep i don't fancy Stranges chances, Removal to another dimension is about his only option but Superboy isn't going to make that easy.

    > 3) Superpby Prime vs. Silver Surfer highest showing
    At his highest showing Surfer might just have a chance, the thing is Superboys invulnerability is so absolute I don't see the vast majority of the Surfers assaults affecting him much. Superboy was dismissing the GL Corps attacks and even shrugged off the Guardians assault.
    We know the Surfer can drain energy but in the time it takes him to do it Superboy is going to be onto him and there's no way Surfer can take a beating off this particular opponent.... Superboy is going to be extremely dominant in that context and while the Surfer is more mobile out in space Superboy too is known to have superman-level speed so it's not that big a gap there either.

    > 4) Superboy Prime vs. Destroyer inhabitated by Thor
    Again I'm not seeing The Destroyer as being powerful enough. Even with Thor in it. The only weapon it has that may be a significant threat is the Disintergration beam, and that's if Prime is charitable enough to let him get the time needed to get the shot off...
    I don't think Prime can physically break the Armour but he has a lot more in the way of speed & mobility and we do know the spirit inhabiting the armour can be shook out in the right circumstances....
    I favor Superboy, if only by eventual BFR.

    > 5) Superboy Prime vs. Odin
    Anything could happen. Superboy can provenly take vast punishment and if/when Odin gets hit by Prime he's going down!
    The level of power it would take Odin to hurt the kid is so high he won't reach the required level quickly enough before Superboy is onto him. Odin is far from invulnerable...

    > 7) Superboy Prime vs. Uatu where Uatu knows that SBP is coming
    The Watcher, via BFR.

    > 6) Superboy Prime vs. Galactus
    Well given Primes powerlevel I can actually see a case for him beating Galactus, it depends which version shows up.
    On average Galactus has proved he is not absolutely invulnerable and can be hurt, Superboy has been seen to take on Monarchs power pretty handily and a case for either winning can be made here. The way he tore thru the Anti-Monitor and dismissed him is a reasonably good parallell.... just how long can Galactus survive i wonder...






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