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seeker
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Subject: How would the following characters take the same attack Thor took in SIEGE?
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 12:18:37 am EST (Viewed 155 times) |
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To try and resolve this somewhat how would the same characters take the same assault starting with the Sentry blindsiding them, knocking him away, then the U-foes, Osborn, and Ms. Marvel/Moonstone blasting __ character at full power causing a nuclear type blast with that character only standing there and taking it and not doing anything to defend themselves at all. Osborn then comes over and hits them. What condition would they be in? Knocked out? Busted up? On the ground? Still standing but a beat bruised? Standing like they had just been hit with a water pistol?
Enraged Savage Hulk
Engraed Grey Hulk
World War Hulk
Gladiator
Superman
Wonder Woman (assume she does not block)
Captain Marvel
Sentry
Hercules
Batman
Orion
Martian Manhunter
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Daniel Criag
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Subject: With Bendis they all go down so he can falsely create something for them to overcome? [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 02:12:47 am EST (Viewed 21 times) |
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Odin's illegitimate Son
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Subject: Well Superman (thor) defending Metropolis (Asgard) would have put up a hell of a fight... [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 03:25:00 am EST (Viewed 22 times) |
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...even against Darkseid and all of the forces of Apocalypse combined...I can tell you that.
What makes this so infuriating is...Thor is defending Asgard. ASGARD! You would think he would have put up a better fight, even if ultimately he loses. He should have taken out a heavy hitter, at least (ex. Iron Clad), and no, he didn't take out the Sentry, since he will surely return next issue.
All the other DC characters would have had a great showing, even if they have to lose, yes, even Wonder WOman who doesn't block. Well, maybe not Batman.
The Hulk, no matter what level of anger, would have taken out at the very least half of their forces before going down.
The Sentry wouldn't lose, at all.
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Daveym 
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Subject: Much Better On the Whole. [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 08:24:46 am EST (Viewed 130 times) |
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Quote: To try and resolve this somewhat how would the same characters take the same assault starting with the Sentry blindsiding them, knocking him away, then the U-foes, Osborn, and Ms. Marvel/Moonstone blasting __ character at full power causing a nuclear type blast with that character only standing there and taking it and not doing anything to defend themselves at all. Osborn then comes over and hits them. What condition would they be in? Knocked out? Busted up? On the ground? Still standing but a beat bruised? Standing like they had just been hit with a water pistol?
Quote: Enraged Savage Hulk
Out Cold. Between Sentry's hit and the Villains firepower he has limited options, Thor has the Hammer for what its worth, but the Hulk has traditionally struggled with just the U-foes.
Same as above though messed up a lot more.
He'd take all of that most likely and Osborn being a ruthless bastard has to get creative. I think the Dark Avengers do eventually nail him to the floor with all hands needed on deck to do it but it's extremely hard.
I'd say he goes down. Sentry is probobly more powerful on his own and the exotic energies the Villains rain down would be punishing... his confidence level will have dropped enough to make it a clean KO.
He takes it all and kicks all their butts. Even being consevative in this assesment he is hit by other Supermen all the time so Sentry is nothing, the villains attack is nothing much either considering he takes proper Nukes without issue. He's way way too much for them.
Quote: Wonder Woman (assume she does not block)
I think Sentry's strike will wind her and the Villains assault might well push her to the edge. She's taken similar strikes but it varies a bit how well she endures them, the edge she has is that she is a far better combatant than Thor and is physically more used to fighting high-end opponents like Sentry or Osborn. She's probobly break Osborns arm for his audacity in thinking he can square up to her!
I think she squeaks by to sensibly retreat after doing it though....
Same as Superman. His durability is collosall and he'd take all of this and win.
His durability is suspect. I think based on the way he is so easily despatched by so many opponents means he wouldn't take this very well. He's more than strong enough but his invulnerability saw him Koed by that Skrull ship exploding for example and Thor knocking him out of the park for so long is hard to rationalise... He just wouldn't stand up to the same test Thor did in my view but he's such a plot-device character he makes Gladiator look normal by comparison.
Same as Thor obviously.
Ha! (Morrisons trumps all though.)
About the same as Thor maybe, his durability is all over the place though his last appearance where he kills Darkseid says to me he might make it all the way through and kill most of the Villains.It's real messy though.
I'm not sure how well he'd take that Blast.... I think he'd go the way of Thor as he tends to be much more sensitive to energy assaults and this could well degrade his durabilty to the point Osborn can punch him out.
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Olympian
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Subject: Re: How would the following characters take the same attack Thor took in SIEGE? [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 10:44:22 am EST (Viewed 25 times) |
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They all go down, with the possible exceptions of Hulk, Marvel and Gladiator for superior healing or durability.
There is no way that Superman written by Bendis would stay up. And Lois would show up to save him, ala Bill.
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Zeeder
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Subject: Re: How would the following characters take the same attack Thor took in SIEGE? [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 05:51:25 pm EST (Viewed 18 times) |
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Now really, Norman would have prepped differently for each of these guys, but i'm assuming he uses the same tactics.
Enraged Savage Hulk
****If the hulk is actually mad enough, he could take the physical assault better than Thor. More along the lines of Superman or gladiator. Vapor would more likely be invovled too*******
Engraed Grey Hulk
****Grey would have been put down. I think the surprise element wouldn't give him the emotional anger needed to reach thor level****
World War Hulk
****They would need more people, he wouldn't shrug if off like it was nothing, but Norman wouldn't be seen for the rest of the story*****
Gladiator
*****They would have to blast him twice possibly, slightly better than Thor*****
Superman
****Same as Gladiator pretty much, we've seen the last showing superman had against a small nuke. lights out. Not that they used an actual nuke*******
Wonder Woman (assume she does not block)
****She'd go down like Thor******
Captain Marvel
******Better than Thor, probably better than Gladiator or superman.He's always been durable*****
Sentry
***whatever he wants, he could shrug it off, explode and reconstitute himself, or run away. It's up to him, not them******
Hercules
****Same as Thor****
Batman
****Batman would be heimdal in this situation. Sentry golden bullets him while batman has the "Oh crap" look on his face****
Orion
****Same as Hercules****
Martian Manhunter
****Well if he is dumb enough to take the shot instead of turning invisible and running, he turns to puddy****
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smallfry
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Subject: Re: How would the following characters take the same attack Thor took in SIEGE? [Re: seeker]
Posted Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 06:59:58 pm EST (Viewed 19 times) |
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Enraged Savage Hulk
Enraged? Hulk stands there and destroys them afterward. Norman dies horribly
Engraed Grey Hulk
Grey goes down
World War Hulk
WWH doesn't even need to fight back... when the dust clears and he's still standing there glaring at them they all quietly leave with their tails between their legs
Gladiator
Takes it better than Thor did... not as well as Hulk. Glads is loopy from the EP attack, but he "heat visions" Norman's arm off
Superman
About the same as Gladiator- but is too reserved to hurt Osborn
Wonder Woman (assume she does not block)
Doesn't block? She goes down
Captain Marvel
Marvel prolly takes it as well as Supes and Glads... says "Gee whiz" and faints
Sentry
Sentry takes it almost as well as Hulk, turns them into potted geraniums, and cries about his mental illness to his imaginary sock puppet Preston
Hercules
Herc is down like Diana
Batman
all that's left of Batman is a charred buckle to a utility belt
Orion
C'mon people- Orion and Captain Atom are sooo over rated- neither of them on their best day is equal to a dry Namor. Toast
Martian Manhunter
Goo
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Fifthchild
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Subject: Re: How would the following characters take the same attack Thor took in SIEGE? [Re: seeker]
Posted Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 09:58:01 am EST (Viewed 43 times) |
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Quote: To try and resolve this somewhat how would the same characters take the same assault starting with the Sentry blindsiding them, knocking him away, then the U-foes, Osborn, and Ms. Marvel/Moonstone blasting __ character at full power causing a nuclear type blast with that character only standing there and taking it and not doing anything to defend themselves at all. Osborn then comes over and hits them. What condition would they be in? Knocked out? Busted up? On the ground? Still standing but a beat bruised? Standing like they had just been hit with a water pistol?
Quote: Enraged Savage Hulk
More enraged.
Hard to say.
Another day at the office for this Hulk.
Shaken but awake and fighting back.
Shaken by the blast but still manages to mount a defence.
Quote: Wonder Woman (assume she does not block)
Out cold.
Same as Superman.
Frowns and asks Norman why he is punching him.
Very much out.
His Holiness The Pope
The Church of Hulk St Jones Church, New Mexico
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