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JesusFan


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IF the Norse god of evil and mischeif was to enage Diana in battle, who would win?




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CHAD


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On the surface I would give Loki an advantage because Diana doesn't have Mjolnir to counter Loki's magic but....that lasso. What would a lasso that compels truth do to the God of Lies... I would think it could neutralize him if he were entangled. She also has the power to physically kick his azz. Good fight!


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Daveym 

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His chief asset is his ability to manipulate and plot behind the scenes, so in that regard he'd be fine but terms of power he isn't on Circes level for example and Ares was usually a good deal more powerful still.
Loki was historically a middle of the road sorceror, not for nothing is there constant speculation about how he stacks up to Doctor Strange, So far since his revival his biggest showing was in Mighty Avengers where he was sent packing by the Young Avengers as i recall. Compared to Circe he's almost an underachiever.... \(fear\)

She's an extremely powerful sorceror and close enough to Doctor Fate level for there not to be a gap worth mentioning, She has been capable of challenging the Gods in the past even.
Wonder Woman also notably faced The White Magician who was easily Loki's level, she has in fact faced a large array of sorcerors and mystics and in that context Loki simply doesn't stand out enough to be deemed anything special.










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He had a wife. Treated her like dirt. She was supposed to marry some asgardian soldier, but because Loki desired her, he did his thing, and he got "killed" in combat. Loki married her, used her, abused her, and then cast her like some cheap rag.

At one point, he made a play for Sif (unsuccessful, of course).



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Also, he's the father of Fenrir and Jormungand.

On the other hand though, he's the MOTHER of Sleipnir (who actually does exist in Marvel but is obscure like Marvel's Tyr).



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    His chief asset is his ability to manipulate and plot behind the scenes, so in that regard he'd be fine but terms of power he isn't on Circes level for example and Ares was usually a good deal more powerful still.



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    Loki was historically a middle of the road sorceror, not for nothing is there constant speculation about how he stacks up to Doctor Strange, So far since his revival his biggest showing was in Mighty Avengers where he was sent packing by the Young Avengers as i recall. Compared to Circe he's almost an underachiever.... \(fear\)



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    She's an extremely powerful sorceror and close enough to Doctor Fate level for there not to be a gap worth mentioning, She has been capable of challenging the Gods in the past even.



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    Wonder Woman also notably faced The White Magician who was easily Loki's level, she has in fact faced a large array of sorcerors and mystics and in that context Loki simply doesn't stand out enough to be deemed anything special.



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bd2999

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    His chief asset is his ability to manipulate and plot behind the scenes, so in that regard he'd be fine but terms of power he isn't on Circes level for example and Ares was usually a good deal more powerful still.



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    Loki was historically a middle of the road sorceror, not for nothing is there constant speculation about how he stacks up to Doctor Strange, So far since his revival his biggest showing was in Mighty Avengers where he was sent packing by the Young Avengers as i recall. Compared to Circe he's almost an underachiever.... \(fear\)



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    She's an extremely powerful sorceror and close enough to Doctor Fate level for there not to be a gap worth mentioning, She has been capable of challenging the Gods in the past even.



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    Wonder Woman also notably faced The White Magician who was easily Loki's level, she has in fact faced a large array of sorcerors and mystics and in that context Loki simply doesn't stand out enough to be deemed anything special.



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I think for the most part Loki is still a good match for her, usually he always has issues when his schemes are uncovered and he is faced directly. He is powerful enough on his own given his innate godly strength and his magic ability and has been able to beat the Thor Corps. around, hold his own with Thor at times and so on but most of the time he can be bested once he is confronted. That being said his plotting is a rough thing to overcome.






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Daveym 

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So you're Saying Loki's scheming is above Circe's, Ares', The White Magicians, Morgaine Le Fays and Nerons for example?

And he's head and shoulders above them in power too?!

Well, We'll have to agree to disagree. O\:\-\)



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In fact I never said any of those things. I just wanted to make the case that Loki is not just a joke that she could do away with easily.

The scheming is what makes him dangerous, everyone agrees with that I think, but I just wanted to make a case for his personel power. I think he is a bit higher than just a middle of the road mage. Does that mean WW would not beat him or that he could fight Ares, I doubt it very much.

Circe is sort of a hard person to gauge. She has more almost reality sort of bending powers than magic at times, other times power that seems to outstrip the gods, and other times can be done in by not to much. I think she is a harder case, but Loki probably could not beat her one on one.






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...Loki with a gun can materialize behind her, then BANG! Dead Wonder Woman. Or, he need not materialize at all, he can stay invisible, hit her with an invisible bullet from behind, to the head, dead wonder woman. Or better yet, he can just teleport her to the heart of the sun.

I can't believe that fanboys are comparing Circe to Loki. Circe? So, she can battle gods, so what? loki is one of the most feared gods in the MU. He did face down Mephisto once, and remark that even he should respect his powers.


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