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JesusFan


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When the Beyonder showed up in main Marvel Universe, when Thanos gained IG, when he got a Cube etc...

Other powerful beings gathered forces to oppose all of them, especially Thanos with the IG...

If they sense BOB has power of "God" now, and can go "nuts" at any rime...

Why wouldn't the "Great Powers" link up and destro BOB before he "Freaks out?"

Wouldn't likes of Celestials and Galactus want to keep the "Cosmic order" in place?

Wouldn't even LT want to intervene in these affairs now?


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The Mandarin


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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You could say similar things about every huge event. Why do only the Fantastic Four show up when Galactus attacks? Why did Spider-Man not run to the Avengers or FF when Morlun was chasing him? Why do lots of things not end up provoking a swarm of major, minor, and obscure characters?




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Surly Rockbottom





I'm sure that if he were to do anything DIRECTLY threatening then they would intervene. The Cosmic Poobahs didn't stop Thanos from gathering the Infinity Gems (nor did they prevent him from being born either). Also, there are plenty of superpowered pawns to be cannon fodder first. Until there's a good reason the Cosmics tend to go about their own business.

Heck, LT has stated that he's only interested when the MULTIVERSAL balance is threatened, ie. one particular universe going wrong and crapping on the works (still don't know why he hasn't kiboshed the Zombie-verse yet . . .)



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    When the Beyonder showed up in main Marvel Universe, when Thanos gained IG, when he got a Cube etc...



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    Other powerful beings gathered forces to oppose all of them, especially Thanos with the IG...



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    If they sense BOB has power of "God" now, and can go "nuts" at any rime...



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    Why wouldn't the "Great Powers" link up and destro BOB before he "Freaks out?"



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    Wouldn't likes of Celestials and Galactus want to keep the "Cosmic order" in place?


You sort of are mistaking alot of concepts here. First, is that the Sentry's power is soley responsible for all of the Biblical God's works. Second, you assume that the jeudeo christian god is actually cosmically important. This sounds horrible if you are Christian or Jewish in the real world, but I am not speaking of reality. In comics the gods seem localized to their spheres, no reason to think otherwise here. It would be a localized entity, beneath the notice of the cosmics, it is but one world. Thirdly, the most powerful being in the MU as far as we have been led to believe is The One Above All. Now, there have been hints that he hangs in Heaven and such, but for the most part Marvel has seperated itself from that sort of creation event for it's own cosmos. They have cosmics and more of a set order of things, less faith and more science into things I guess you would say.

The cosmic beings have no reason to just attack Sentry, he has done nothing to affect the universe at all. Few probably even know of him as far as I would imagine.


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RANDOM




I think if Marvel are genuinely going to give Sentry the powers of Jehova/Yahweh/Allah then that is going to upset a lot of people. I think they were wrong in Thor 301 when they had him fighting Shiva and showe a limit to a God's power that is worshipped by millions of people in the world today. If they go down the route you seem to be implying with Sentry then it would be very unwise (particualrly considering they are now owned by Disney).

If on the other hand they say he is a servant of God, or has powers of a God then he's not in the same league as Thanos with the IG.


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Maximum Man


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Especially when the Celestials implicitly told the God Pantheons to stop interfering with human progress or they would be sorry.

To answer your question, they didn't do that because the writer didn't want that to happen.


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Ragnarok




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    I think if Marvel are genuinely going to give Sentry the powers of Jehova/Yahweh/Allah then that is going to upset a lot of people. I think they were wrong in Thor 301 when they had him fighting Shiva and showe a limit to a God's power that is worshipped by millions of people in the world today. If they go down the route you seem to be implying with Sentry then it would be very unwise (particualrly considering they are now owned by Disney).


That's a good point about Shiva. While I can see how an American writer with little knowledge of Hinduism could see Shiva as just another god in a larger pantheon, Shiva is the supreme God of that religion and worshipped by nearly a billion people. We set clear rules regarding myth and relgion, whether that is logical or not. Letting Thor fight Shiva is like having him fight Jesus. It was a mistake. However, does this mean that Shiva could not presented at all in comics? You have the inherent problem that if you introduce multiple versions of the supreme God and say they are not the same individual than you have to question if any of those above are really omnipotent. Perhpas most of us grew up with the modern monotheistic version of a supreme being so we are a bit limited. For example, Shiva is one aspect of the great divine power just as Jesus is considered one aspect/side of God in Christianity. Similarly, many pagan religions see the God and Goddess and all other minor gods to be different aspects of a greater devine power. So would it be possible to have an aspect or face of a supreme being show up in a comic?


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The duality of Sentry and the Void doesn't sit well with the J-C God in my eyes since the good/creation side has always been considered the omnipotent one. Sentry would be more of an order v. chaos manisfestation. If Sentry's powers do have a biblical origin than perhaps he is just a fallen angle or somehow managed to steal this power. I can't see a writer allowing the God of Judaism/Islam/Christianity to charge a being like the Void to kill indescriminantly. These views on God usually justify his wrath somehow.


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smallfry




well I have a couple thoughts on that; One thing is that if what we're seeing is actually leading to the revelation that Sentry has the power of God (and that quite frankly remains to be seen) he has apparently had it for quite some time- if that's him as Moses, why would the "powers that be" suddenly want to stop him now and not eons ago? It would be silly for them to suddenly have a problem with Sentry. The other thought is this; if he in fact is tapped into the power of the J/C God then the cosmics are probably better off staying out of his way- he could snap his fingers and obliterate TOAA.


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autochron




By the way Korvac's name was "Michael"... Hmmm... Haven't thought of that until now... Archangel Michael.

Anyway! In that "What If?" comic book Korvac had to deal with the "Great Powers" and in fact he had to deal with them in continuity.

These days seem to be the times of little accountability and very little continuity. First the Sentry is gallivanting around with... God's power? Personally I don't think he's God but he probably comes close... Maybe he's that other guy, that Fallen Angel?

And then we have the Marquis of Death, a freakin' mutant that was running around destroying Universes with no consequences. Well, scratch that actually because no one seems to want that story in continuity. I wouldn't want that story lining a bird cage!


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