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Zom is apparently the most powerful demon in Marvel. The best Dormammu and Eternity could do was bind the creature. A sliver of his power was enough to beat the crap out of WWH with Strange having to restrain the demon for Hulk to even get a few hits in. The only times Zom has been fought head on was when it was far weaker than it is at full strength. Even Umar fled in fear of it.

So, what short of the Living Tribunal or DC's Presence might stand a chance against this demon of destruction?


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bd2999

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    Zom is apparently the most powerful demon in Marvel. The best Dormammu and Eternity could do was bind the creature. A sliver of his power was enough to beat the crap out of WWH with Strange having to restrain the demon for Hulk to even get a few hits in. The only times Zom has been fought head on was when it was far weaker than it is at full strength. Even Umar fled in fear of it.



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    So, what short of the Living Tribunal or DC's Presence might stand a chance against this demon of destruction?


Don't know, depends on how much of the thing is actually there or not. I tend to think an abstract could do something but they have strange limitations with regards to their powers and what they can and cannot do based on their domains.




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oceanside1




Since I have been pitting the Inbetweener against some characters recently, he could come in hear with his Masters backing or Zoms opposite and possibly destroy Zom for good. Inside the IBs universe he is unbeatable pretty much by outside forces unless it involves MO & LC.


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Destroyer






No way is Inbetweener beating ZOM!!!!! ZOm nearly killed Eternity and Dormammu it took then both to restrain him so he would destroy the universe neither one could come close to hurting him. Im sure the LT could defeat ZOM but outside of that his evil is pretty much at the pinnacle in marvel. He is so powerful you probably will never see him at Full power in the marvel universe again. Even the Chaos Lord couldnt get him to obey and he was a universal threat in power. ZOMstrange refused to obey or be controlled by the Chaos lord in the Incredible Hulk book. THats how powerful ZOM is even the most powerful threats dont strike fear into ZOM.


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bd2999

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    Since I have been pitting the Inbetweener against some characters recently, he could come in hear with his Masters backing or Zoms opposite and possibly destroy Zom for good. Inside the IBs universe he is unbeatable pretty much by outside forces unless it involves MO & LC.


What are you basing that logic on? Zom does not have an opposite that we are aware of. He is some sort of uber demon. The Living Tribunal was going to have to deal with him. If he had an exact opposite that kept him in line I imagine that it would have shown up to stop him at the get go. He had to be trapped not really countered outright.

And where do you get the information that he is unbeatable inside his universe. The In Betweener does not have a universe. Order and Chaos have a universe where they are more than Eternity and Death in the standard Marvel universe, sort of a flipping of importance, and it is a universe devoted more to magic. They created the IB as a balance point in that universe. But he said pretty much outright that his point of power was when everything was in a perfect state of balance. Such as the portal that he and Galactus were fighting in during their clash. IB brags how he is more powerful there and will crush Galactus but the two seem just as matched as before.

There is no reason to think the IB is something more than he is. Something incredibly powerful? No question. Something with unlimited power, not really. Just a ton of it. Honestly I would say that he is generally as powerful as a guy like Galactus maybe a bit more so if he can summon a true opposite against something. The issue is if it has an opposite. And remember that depending on what the opposite is it is under no obligation not to seek revenge. Death is an abstract and is not that direct but say he was fighting Mephisto and summoned an arch angel or something to fight him. It would do the job at first but once it was done it could come back for him with friends or alone. Not a great example given we know little on angels but you get the idea.




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    Zom is apparently the most powerful demon in Marvel. The best Dormammu and Eternity could do was bind the creature. A sliver of his power was enough to beat the crap out of WWH with Strange having to restrain the demon for Hulk to even get a few hits in. The only times Zom has been fought head on was when it was far weaker than it is at full strength. Even Umar fled in fear of it.



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    So, what short of the Living Tribunal or DC's Presence might stand a chance against this demon of destruction?





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oceanside1




Here is all the logic you need. First off IBs universe is MO/LC universe, the IB did make for himself a dimension before Scorpio split him into Chaos & Order. Against Dr. Strange IB had planned to alter the fabric of reality by imposing his own concept of balance in the universe. IB duties are to keep balance in his whole universe so that neither MO/LC becomes more than the other. So if Zom was to threaten that balance one way or the other the IB would be empowered to reestablish that balance. No opposite needed, cuz I don't see Zom destroying or overtaking these characters. Last but definitely not least, see MARVEL WIKI on IBs powers. He is completely indestructible, possesses incalculable strength, flys at warp speeds, has nearly limitless ability to manipulate time, space, matter, and energy as well as almost infinite abilities with the entire range of psionic powers. He is telepathically linked to MO/LC. Now all these powers are most likely present in his own reality with his masters, thats why I said he is nearly unbeatable there, and that a weakening sooner or later Galactus was going down. Zom also, thats what I'm talking about and thats where I get information from, Marvel who don't always portray a characters true powers regularly.


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oceanside1




Read his powerset at Marvel Wiki and tell me no way after that. IB is a low level IG.Also either master can empower him further to maintain the balance in their universe, so if Zom is disruptive to that balance, Zom will be going one way or another. If IB can alter reality on a Cosmic Scale then he can handle Zoms destruction.


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Destroyer






Ib does not stand a chance!!!!! He isnt even close to being on the same level as Zom. King Thor defeated IB!!! Inbetweener very rarely shows up at a powerlevel on par or greater than Galactus. Zom is a far greater threat than Galactus.


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oceanside1




First off King Thor beat HALF of the Inbetweener, the Order side. Now I advise you to go to Marvel Wiki and read the Inbetweeners powers and then tell me what you think. I predict a changed mind. He was every part as equals to Galactus and probably stronger in his own universe where his powers are not subject to certain rules. Marvel Wikipedia.


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THUNDERER!!!




Everbody thinks about Thanos bitch slapping him! But that was a severely powerless IB Who was being punnished by MO & LC,

People dont give him the respect he diserves.


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BBC





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    He was every part as equals to Galactus and probably stronger in his own universe where his powers are not subject to certain rules. Marvel Wikipedia.


Just one problem, Galactus was hardly at his peak when he fought the InBetweener. Galactus had just nearly died of cosmic indigestion.




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