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Before Marvel does Avengers vs. X-Men, let’s see what the Battleboard says on the matter. Here are the rules. I’ve matched up 32 Avengers against 32 X-Men. (Beast went to the Avengers while Storm and Wolverine went to the X-Men.) All characters are in their current forms in the comics. That means Angel is no longer Archangel, Rogue no longer has Ms. Marvel or Sunfire powers, Colossus has Juggernaut’s powers, Nightcrawler is the Age of Apocalypse version, and the Vision is back to the original version, not “teen” Vision.

The fights take place in an evacuated New York City. Combatants start off 20 yards apart. No battlefield removal allowed. Fight ends when one opponent is unconscious or immobilized in a way from which the character cannot escape. 4 characters from each team make 1 group. Tell me who wins the 4 individual match-ups in each group and then tell me who’s left standing as the winners of the individual match-ups fight one another in their group.

This is round 1. The winners from round 1 will meet in a round 2 thread tomorrow (or maybe the day after depending on how many votes come in) and so on until only one team is left standing.

Group 1:
Captain America vs. Cyclops
Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot
Falcon vs. Angel
Tigra vs. Wolfsbane

Group 2:
Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
Valkyrie vs. Rogue
Hawkeye vs. Gambit
Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat

Group 3:
Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
Captain Britain vs. Iceman
Spider-Woman vs. Armor
Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)

Group 4:
Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar

Group 5:
Luke Cage vs. Warpath
Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
Daredevil vs. Psylocke
Black Widow vs. Domino

Group 6:
Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
Vision vs. Emma Frost
Protector vs. Fantomex
Quake vs. Rictor

Group 7:
Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
War Machine vs. Havok
She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
Spider-Man vs. Cable

Group 8:
Thor vs. Danger
Thing vs. Storm
Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
Shang Chi vs. Deadpool




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    Before Marvel does Avengers vs. X-Men, let’s see what the Battleboard says on the matter. Here are the rules. I’ve matched up 32 Avengers against 32 X-Men. (Beast went to the Avengers while Storm and Wolverine went to the X-Men.) All characters are in their current forms in the comics. That means Angel is no longer Archangel, Rogue no longer has Ms. Marvel or Sunfire powers, Colossus has Juggernaut’s powers, Nightcrawler is the Age of Apocalypse version, and the Vision is back to the original version, not “teen” Vision.



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    The fights take place in an evacuated New York City. Combatants start off 20 yards apart. No battlefield removal allowed. Fight ends when one opponent is unconscious or immobilized in a way from which the character cannot escape. 4 characters from each team make 1 group. Tell me who wins the 4 individual match-ups in each group and then tell me who’s left standing as the winners of the individual match-ups fight one another in their group.



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    This is round 1. The winners from round 1 will meet in a round 2 thread tomorrow (or maybe the day after depending on how many votes come in) and so on until only one team is left standing.



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    Group 1:
    Captain America vs. Cyclops
    Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot
    Falcon vs. Angel
    Tigra vs. Wolfsbane


Cap vs. Cyke is the closest imo...hmmmmm...Cap edges this imo as the Shield can take the optic blasts and Cap closes in and out physically powers Scott.

Longshot takes out Sharon pretty easily

Angel wins unless Falcon also gets his pet Redwing

Tigra wins

Cap+Tigra vs. Longshot+Angel

I think Longshot wins any of these 1 on 1...but Angel is the weakest link so team Avengers


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    Group 2:
    Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
    Valkyrie vs. Rogue
    Hawkeye vs. Gambit
    Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat


Yeesh...Mags usually doesnt face magic, but Doc these days is not at his best...tough decision here...toss-up...50-50

Rogue beats Valkyrie...she isnt high end enough to finish it quickly enough

Hawkeye do to all the various trick arrows...something like a bolo arrow which Gambit gets out of to be taken out by a gas arrow

ShadowCat...MBird betetr fighter but cannot handle the intangible

Rogue+Shadowcat vs. Hawkeye

Team X-Men


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    Group 3:
    Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
    Captain Britain vs. Iceman
    Spider-Woman vs. Armor
    Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)


Hulk (Hulk is just stupid these days power-wise...Classic Juggernaut and Hulk is a 50-50 imo so if Pak had not chnaged things so badly I would have given edge to Peter...though really Peter-naut is pretty stupid as well story-wise).
Cap Britain
Armor
NCrawler

Hulk wins


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    Group 4:
    Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
    Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
    Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
    Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar


Iron Man should win
Madrox
IFist
Shatterstar

IM+IF vs. Madrox+Shatterstar

Team Avengers


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    Group 5:
    Luke Cage vs. Warpath
    Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
    Daredevil vs. Psylocke
    Black Widow vs. Domino


Cage
No clue
Psylock
Domino

Team X-Men


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    Group 6:
    Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
    Vision vs. Emma Frost
    Protector vs. Fantomex
    Quake vs. Rictor


Ms. Marvel (unless can she shit down Marvels mind?)
Vision really really really bad match up for Emma who is very powerful
Protector
Quake....Rictor became a joke a loooong time ago

Team Avengers (even if Ms. marvel lost her round)


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    Group 7:
    Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
    War Machine vs. Havok
    She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
    Spider-Man vs. Cable


If Hope has MInd Control she wins...otherwise Red Hulk
War machine
Shulk 50-50 vs. Polaris
Cable

Winner...based on team that had either Red Hulk or Hope win


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    Group 8:
    Thor vs. Danger
    Thing vs. Storm
    Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
    Shang Chi vs. Deadpool


Thor
Storm unless she goes in close and acts dumb
Pym maybe not as physically strong but brings many other advantages
Deadpool

Thor + Pym vs. Storm + Deadpool

Team Avengers...Thor has a significant power advantage over the xmen and would win this even solo imo



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    Group 1:
    Captain America vs. Cyclops
    Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot
    Falcon vs. Angel
    Tigra vs. Wolfsbane


Cyclops, Longshot, Angel, and Tigra win. Cyclops, Longshot, and Angel down Tigra quickly.


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    Group 2:
    Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
    Valkyrie vs. Rogue
    Hawkeye vs. Gambit
    Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat


I'd give Sorceror Supreme Strange the nod and it would have been close then, but Magneto beats current Strange. Valkyrie, Hawkeye, and Shadowcat win their fights. Magneto beats Valkyrie. Hawkeye downs Shadowcat with a sonic arrow. Magneto beats Hawkeye.


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    Group 3:
    Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
    Captain Britain vs. Iceman
    Spider-Woman vs. Armor
    Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)


Juggerlossus, Captain Britain, Armor, and Beast win. Juggerlossus beats the Brit while Armor beats Beast.


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    Group 4:
    Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
    Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
    Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
    Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar


Iron Man, Prince, Iron Fist, and Shatterstar win. Shatterstar doesn't last long against those Avengers.


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    Group 5:
    Luke Cage vs. Warpath
    Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
    Daredevil vs. Psylocke
    Black Widow vs. Domino


Warpath, Frenzy, Psylocke, and Natasha win, then Natasha quickly goes down against these X-Men.


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    Group 6:
    Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
    Vision vs. Emma Frost
    Protector vs. Fantomex
    Quake vs. Rictor


Rachel, Vision, Fantomex, and Quake win. Vision edges Rachel. Fantomex edges Quake. Vision wins.


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    Group 7:
    Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
    War Machine vs. Havok
    She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
    Spider-Man vs. Cable


Rulk, War Machine, Polaris, and Cable win. Rulk is the only one left standing from this group.


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    Group 8:
    Thor vs. Danger
    Thing vs. Storm
    Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
    Shang Chi vs. Deadpool


Thor, Storm, Pym, and Shang Chi win. Storm goes down quickly.





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    Rogue beats Valkyrie...she isnt high end enough to finish it quickly enough


You know Rogue's only power these days is power absorption through touch, right? She has no super strength or durability against a class 45 Valkyrie who just has to avoid getting touched. Although Rogue could very well get the touch.


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    Ms. Marvel (unless can she shit down Marvels mind?)


Rachel has the ability to do this (assuming you meant "shut") unless you deem Carol's mind too strong although I've never seen her show psi resistance.


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    If Hope has MInd Control she wins...otherwise Red Hulk
    War machine


Hope's powers are pretty vague at this point though she can copy the powers of all mutants around her so she could have the powers of Havok, Polaris, and Cable going against Red Hulk. At this point, it's highly unlikely she would mind control Rulk.


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    Team Avengers...Thor has a significant power advantage over the xmen and would win this even solo imo


Perhaps, but keep in mind that Danger alone took down an entire team of X-Men.





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    Quote:
    Before Marvel does Avengers vs. X-Men, let’s see what the Battleboard says on the matter. Here are the rules. I’ve matched up 32 Avengers against 32 X-Men. (Beast went to the Avengers while Storm and Wolverine went to the X-Men.) All characters are in their current forms in the comics. That means Angel is no longer Archangel, Rogue no longer has Ms. Marvel or Sunfire powers, Colossus has Juggernaut’s powers, Nightcrawler is the Age of Apocalypse version, and the Vision is back to the original version, not “teen” Vision.



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    The fights take place in an evacuated New York City. Combatants start off 20 yards apart. No battlefield removal allowed. Fight ends when one opponent is unconscious or immobilized in a way from which the character cannot escape. 4 characters from each team make 1 group. Tell me who wins the 4 individual match-ups in each group and then tell me who’s left standing as the winners of the individual match-ups fight one another in their group.



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    This is round 1. The winners from round 1 will meet in a round 2 thread tomorrow (or maybe the day after depending on how many votes come in) and so on until only one team is left standing.



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    Group 1:
    Captain America vs. Cyclops
    Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot
    Falcon vs. Angel
    Tigra vs. Wolfsbane


Angel > Falcon
Tigra > Wolfsbane due to her far greater strength
Longshot > Carter
Cap < Cyclops
I think Angel is the closet fight. I'll say Avengers scrape a majority.


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    Group 2:
    Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
    Valkyrie vs. Rogue
    Hawkeye vs. Gambit
    Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat


Avengers win due to Strange.


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    Group 3:
    Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
    Captain Britain vs. Iceman
    Spider-Woman vs. Armor
    Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)


X-Men squeak a win this time.


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    Group 4:
    Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
    Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
    Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
    Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar


Avengers win this (POO was an Avenger?)


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    Group 5:
    Luke Cage vs. Warpath
    Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
    Daredevil vs. Psylocke
    Black Widow vs. Domino


X-Men and handily


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    Group 6:
    Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
    Vision vs. Emma Frost
    Protector vs. Fantomex
    Quake vs. Rictor


X-Men I guess


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    Group 7:
    Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
    War Machine vs. Havok
    She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
    Spider-Man vs. Cable


X-Men easily


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    Group 8:
    Thor vs. Danger
    Thing vs. Storm
    Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
    Shang Chi vs. Deadpool


Avengers in a stomp
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... or not \(fear\) .

I actually tried giving this a shot, but it quickly became apparent that since I am familiar not with the current versions of people I know, and there are a lot of people I don't know, I'm not really gonna add anything substantial here...

Sorry O\:\-\) .


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    Group 1:
    Captain America vs. Cyclops
    Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot
    Falcon vs. Angel
    Tigra vs. Wolfsbane


Cap's shield is not a force field. Cyke should be able to put him down before he can close the distance. Especially in a depopulated area.
Of course, in a comics, Scott would keep aiming the middle of the shield and let Cap get close enough.

Longshot is better than Hostage 13 and is more lucky.

If Angel is amnesic, he doesn't have experience anymore, right? Falcon wins.

I'd say Tigra is a bit stronger. She wins.

Cyclops & Longshot vs Falcon & Tigra.
Cyclops wins it for his team.


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    Group 2:
    Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
    Valkyrie vs. Rogue
    Hawkeye vs. Gambit
    Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat


Current Strange loses to Mags.

Valkyries KO Rogue before she can touch her.

Hawkeye: superior range and versatility.

Shadowcat: not an easy fight, but she should be able to do the "hit and go intagnible" thing fast enough to beat Mocky.

Magneto and Shadowcat vs Hawkeye and Valkyrie.
Magneto should win 7/10 by his own.


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    Group 3:
    Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
    Captain Britain vs. Iceman
    Spider-Woman vs. Armor
    Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)


Hulk vs Colossus: I'd say Hulk, until I see some impressive showing from Juggerlossus.

Iceman should beat Braddock.

There is nothing SW can do to harm Hisako. Armor wins.

Nightcrawler shoudl own Beast.

Hulk vs Iceman, Kurt and Armor.
It all depends of AOA Kurt's mentality. If he goes for the kill, X-Men win, if not, they lose (unless Iceman uses his water absorption power, but he doesn't do it on averrage)
So it's a draw.



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    Group 4:
    Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
    Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
    Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
    Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar


Iron Man should beat Namor.

POF beats Madrox.

Wolverine and IF can go either way. Draw.

Shatterstar is stronger, tougher, as skilled and as mean as MK. He wins.

Iron Man and POF beat Shatterstar.


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    Group 5:
    Luke Cage vs. Warpath
    Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
    Daredevil vs. Psylocke
    Black Widow vs. Domino


Warpath is not in the 90 class anymore. I don't think he could hurt Cage enough to get a win. Luke Cage wins.

Jessica is not strong enough to hurt Frenzy. Frenzy wins.

Psylocke should beat DD, if she fights smart.

BW is more skilled than Domino, but Domino has her probability altering powers. Draw.

Frenzy and Psycloke beat Luke Cage.


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    Group 6:
    Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
    Vision vs. Emma Frost
    Protector vs. Fantomex
    Quake vs. Rictor


Rachel's telepathy should be enough to beat MM.

Emma's telepathy is useless here and being as hard as diamond is just one of Vision's powers. Vision wins.

Hmm... Protector has superior stats and powrs, but Fantomex is smart and has his misdirection power. Draw.

Rictor vs Quake? Both are skilled and powerfull. Draw

Vision vs Rachel? Vision should beat current phoenixless Rachel.



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    Group 7:
    Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
    War Machine vs. Havok
    She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
    Spider-Man vs. Cable


Hope's guns won't be enough to beat Rhulk.

War Machine can take a hit from Havok, the inverse is not true. Rhodey wins.

Polaris in NY? She should win against Shulkie.

Spider Man should be an unprepared Cable.

Rhulk, WM and SM vs Polaris. Lorna loses.


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    Group 8:
    Thor vs. Danger
    Thing vs. Storm
    Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
    Shang Chi vs. Deadpool


Thor is too much for Danger.

Storm can go all out if there are no civilians. She should beat Thing.

Pym can shrink Strong Guy. Giant Man wins.

Deadpool should win.

Thor beats Storm and Wade without Pym's help.




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together in there groups and the spilt off in there 1 v 1's. I say this before seeing the matchups to allow characters like Rogue to be able to use their powers fairly.

Captain America
Longshot
Angel
Tigra

Cap - left standing

Magneto
Rogue
Gambit
Shadowcat

All XMen left standing


Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)???????
Captain Britain
Spider-Woman
Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)

Somehow Captain Britain is the only one left standing

Sub-Mariner
Prince of Orphans
Wolverine
Moon Knight

Wolverine is left standing

Luke Cage
Frenzy
Psylocke
Black Widow

Luke Cage is the last one standing

Ms. Marvel
Vision
Protector
Rictor


Ms Marvel, Vision & Protector are left.

Hope Summers
War Machine
She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters)
Cable

Cable & Hope are left standing

Thor
Storm
Strong Guy
Deadpool

???? Either Thor or Deadpool. I'll say Thor











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"Angel > Falcon
Tigra > Wolfsbane due to her far greater strength
Longshot > Carter
Cap < Cyclops
I think Angel is the closet fight. I'll say Avengers scrape a majority."


I have to ask \:\-d did you get the Cyclops vs Cap fight the wrong way round or do you see Tigra beating both Cyclops and Longshot quicly enough to help out Falcon? \:\- >


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and your votes count as much as anyone elses! o_O


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    "Angel > Falcon
    Tigra > Wolfsbane due to her far greater strength
    Longshot > Carter
    Cap < Cyclops
    I think Angel is the closet fight. I'll say Avengers scrape a majority.">



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    I have to ask \:\-d did you get the Cyclops vs Cap fight the wrong way round or do you see Tigra beating both Cyclops and Longshot quicly enough to help out Falcon? \:\-


Actually no. I just worked it out in my head. I meant to say X-Men win!





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    Quote:
    Group 1:
    Captain America vs. Cyclops
    Agent 13 (Sharon Carter)
    vs. Longshot
    Falcon vs. Angel
    Tigra vs. Wolfsbane



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    Group 2:
    Dr. Strange vs. Magneto
    Valkyrie vs. Rogue
    Hawkeye
    vs. Gambit
    Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat



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    Group 3:
    Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)
    Captain Britain vs. Iceman
    Spider-Woman vs. Armor
    Beast
    vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)



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    Group 4:
    Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner
    Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox
    Iron Fist vs. Wolverine
    Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar



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    Group 5:
    Luke Cage vs. Warpath
    Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy
    Daredevil vs. Psylocke
    Black Widow vs. Domino



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    Group 6:
    Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)
    Vision vs. Emma Frost
    Protector vs. Fantomex
    Quake vs. Rictor



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    Group 7:
    Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers
    War Machine vs. Havok
    She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris
    Spider-Man vs. Cable



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    Group 8:
    Thor vs. Danger
    Thing vs. Storm
    Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy
    Shang Chi vs. Deadpool







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fun stuff. here we go:

Group 1:
Captain America vs. Cyclops - Cap
Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot - Longshot
Falcon vs. Angel - Falcon
Tigra vs. Wolfsbane - Tigra

you'd think that Cap, Falcon and Tigra would make mincemeat of Longshot here, but i'll call Longshot's luck powers causeing Falcon and Tigra to 'accidently' take each other out. so Cap is the last man standing after finally catching Longshot.


Group 2:
Dr. Strange vs. Magneto - Mags eventually
Valkyrie vs. Rogue - Valkyrie - i really like her recent characterization. best Valkyrie ever.
Hawkeye vs. Gambit - Gambit
Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat - Mockingbird

both Mags and Gambit are left standing at the end. Mockingbird and Gambit might be equal HTH, but Mags finishes Valk quick and then finishes the 'Bird.


Group 3:
Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers) - take each other out. no picking between these two yet.
Captain Britain vs. Iceman - Captain Britain
Spider-Woman vs. Armor - Spider-Woman - Jessica with some smart fighting
Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse) - Beast

Cap Britain, Spider-Woman and Beast all left standing


Group 4:
Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner - i think current Iron Man finds the wins 5.5/10.
Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox - Prince of Orphans
Iron Fist vs. Wolverine - Wolverine
Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar - Moon Knight

Iron Man, Prince of Orphans and Moon KNight pile up on Wolvey, but he'll take out Moon Knight and the Prince before falling to Iron Man.


Group 5:
Luke Cage vs. Warpath - Warpath
Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy - Frenzy
Daredevil vs. Psylocke - Daredevil
Black Widow vs. Domino - Black Widow

nice match-ups here. but i gotta go with the X-dudes here. i think both Warpath and Frenzy are still standing when this is all done.


Group 6:
Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey) - Ms Marvel w/ wits.
Vision vs. Emma Frost - Vision
Protector vs. Fantomex - Protector
Quake vs. Rictor - Quake on fighting skills.

all four Avengers still standing


Group 7:
Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers - Hope 5.5/10
War Machine vs. Havok - War Machine
She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris - She-Hulk
Spider-Man vs. Cable - Spider-Man eventually

i think Hope is so worn out from her first fight that she goes down next leaving War Machine, She-Hulk and SPidey standing


Group 8:
Thor vs. Danger - Thor
Thing vs. Storm - Thing
Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy - Strong Guy
Shang Chi vs. Deadpool - Deadpool eventually because i think he recovers incredibly fast from the worst Shang can do and eventually he lands a good one.

Strong Guy and Deadpool don't stand a chance here. and two more Avengers left standing.

Avengers left (14): Captain America, Cap Britain, Spider-Woman, Beast, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Vision, Protector, Quake, War Machine, She-Hulk, Spidey, Thor and Thing

X-Men left (4): Magneto, Gambit, Warpath, Frenzy


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Group 1:
Captain America vs. Cyclops

-- Cap in a big way

Agent 13 (Sharon Carter) vs. Longshot

--Longshot

Falcon vs. Angel

--Angel

Tigra vs. Wolfsbane

--Tigra

--Cap and Tigra handle Longshot and Angel, but it's a fun fight!

Group 2:
Dr. Strange vs. Magneto

--I could see this going either way, but I edge Strange. His diversity wins it.

Valkyrie vs. Rogue

-- Val

Hawkeye vs. Gambit

-- Close, but Hawkeye

Mockingbird vs. Shadowcat

-- Shadowcat

-- Hawkeye, Val and Strange eat Shadowcat alive

Group 3:
Hulk vs. Colossus (with Juggernaut powers)

--Hulk all day

Captain Britain vs. Iceman

-- Cap is way above Iceman

Spider-Woman vs. Armor

--Spidey

Beast vs. Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)

--Beast was a veteran at this long before Kurt. Beast schools him

-- Team Avengers go unchallenged

Group 4:
Iron Man vs. Sub-Mariner

-- Iron man takes it

Prince of Orphans vs. Jamie Madrox

-- Prince

Iron Fist vs. Wolverine

--Wolvie

Moon Knight vs. Shatterstar

--Toss up.

--Let's give it to Shatterstar... he and Wolvie vs. Iron man and Prince of Orphans. Another Avengers win

Group 5:
Luke Cage vs. Warpath

-- Cage

Jessica Jones vs. Frenzy

--I don't know either of them so they must be irrelevant.

Daredevil vs. Psylocke

-- Daredevil in a close one!

Black Widow vs. Domino

--Widow

-- Avengers rout

Group 6:
Ms. Marvel vs. Marvel Girl (Rachel Grey)

--No Phoenix? Ms. Marvel

Vision vs. Emma Frost

-- Vision

Protector vs. Fantomex

- Protector

Quake vs. Rictor

-- Quake

-- Avengers again

Group 7:
Red Hulk vs. Hope Summers

-- Hope most likely

War Machine vs. Havok

-- War Machine

She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) vs. Polaris

-- Shulkie

Spider-Man vs. Cable

-- Spidey

-- Hope can't beat them all

Group 8:
Thor vs. Danger

-- Thor

Thing vs. Storm

-- Talk about veterans- Thing!

Giant Man (Henry Pym) vs. Strong Guy

-- Pym puts Guido down

Shang Chi vs. Deadpool

-- Pool

-- Pool is way outclassed in the end.

-- Avengers win big!


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jazzbass6




The Shield and Cap's experience will take Cyke every time.


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    Perhaps, but keep in mind that Danger alone took down an entire team of X-Men.


Looking at your comment- "took down an entire team of X-Men"

We're talking the GOD OF THUNDER who has gone toe-to-toe with both Hulks, Asgardian powered Hulk AND Thing, Galactus, Ego, Surtur, Ymir, Mangog,The Celestials, etc... While the X-Men are formidible, the entire character list of team members on the X-Men DOES NOT compete with who Thor has gone up against.


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RANDOM




words fail me. I never realised Cap was that good. i just assumed because of his countless defeats that he could be beaten. I suppose he must be better now and wow I can't even continue with this, I'm so dumbstruck by your oh so knoweldgeable statement. \(teehee\)


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Cap is not infallible and IMHO Cyclops is at least as well trained in the use of his abilities.





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But Cap.'s strength is peak human Cyke is not. All it would really take for cap to win is a single good punch or kick, and He WILL get that in every time.




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jazzbass6




Cap is a better straegist than Cyke will ever be. He is a more trained fighter than Cyke could dream of being. The shield can stand up to BOTH the Hulk's blows AND Mjolnir, so what is Cyke's optic blast going to do? Plus, if you remember, During the Secret Wars;IT WAS CAP THAT EVERYONE NOMINATED TO LEAD THE HEROS ON BATTLE WORLD (Xavier included).

So,HOW CYKE will win against Cap?


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when the Xmen beat the Dark Avengers - Is Cyclops the only one to actually get a clear win over them?


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Hmmm...probably Valkyrie then due to skill


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    Rachel has the ability to do this (assuming you meant "shut") unless you deem Carol's mind too strong although I've never seen her show psi resistance.


Yes shut \:\) She wins then imo.


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all 3? To what degree? Could see her winning then.



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I suppose...I know Danger is the 2nd strongest here...how does Danger do vs. a massive EMP though?



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    Cap is a better straegist than Cyke will ever be. He is a more trained fighter than Cyke could dream of being. The shield can stand up to BOTH the Hulk's blows AND Mjolnir, so what is Cyke's optic blast going to do? Plus, if you remember, During the Secret Wars;IT WAS CAP THAT EVERYONE NOMINATED TO LEAD THE HEROS ON BATTLE WORLD (Xavier included).



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    So,HOW CYKE will win against Cap?


No. The X-Men became a third force, they did not follow Cap initially and it was only until they needed to work together against Galactus and then a cosmic level Dr Doom when they joined forces. Yes, Cap is a better hand to hand combatant, but Cyclops has the luxury of a ranged attack which can affect class 100's.

Cyclops skill with optic blasts is comparable to Cap's and hits a lot harder to.





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