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Bk Ray

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Assuming neutral ground, who wins?





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I would favor Magneto a majority but It's an interesting (and somewhat open) question given each of The Mandarin's rings serve a very specific function and some of them in theory Magneto has little or no defence against.
The matter rearranging ring for example, the gravity/mass ring, or the Black light beam. Using his rings strategically Mandarin has every chance of countering and depleting Magneto, indeed if the encounter is on level ground and given Mandarin is very well educated in physics he may be able to neutralise Magneto's magnetic abilities enough for a one on one beatdown - if Mandarin gets any sort of chance to strike him no way is Magneto going to come out unscathed from someone who can physically damage Iron Man's armour with his bare hands...

It all comes down to circumstance and what the specifics are, but on average Magneto has more scope with his abilities and there is no reason to assume the Rings would be immune to Magneto's direct influence. In fact hasn't Iron Man used magnetism to draw them from Mandarin's fingers in the past? May be misremembering. \(pirate\)



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Your memory is perfect. Iron Man Vol.1 #100.


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The Mandarin


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Depends on the range they start at when the fight starts. Magneto is more powerful, but he's been blitzed by Wolverine and others. The Mandarin is fast and strong enough to kill him with one punch/kick/karate-chop.

I'd say Mandarin wins if the fight at five feet or closer. Magneto wins if the fight starts further than that.




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I'm directing this towards your reply, because you're our resident expert re: your namesake.

I actually think close quarters might not be good for Mandarin unless its very close and Magneto doesn't just automatically have his shields up. Mandarin is fast and skilled and can probably get to Mags before a shield goes up - if he isn't shielded already and they are within striking distance of one another when the fight starts. At even five feet, I think Mags could usually get a shield up before Mandarin could strike him despite Mandarin's speed.

On the other hand, though, the magnitude of the rings' power and the variety of effects they offer seem to me to give Mandy a better shot at getting past Mags' defenses than most.

Thoughts?


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The Real Lance Eason




Perhaps quite a bit.


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The Mandarin


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Well the thing is, Magneto gets hit a lot despite his shields. Even metal-boned Wolverine hits, and in fact has nearly killed him on multiple occasions. He's not really that consistently fast about getting the shield up. He's alive because the X-Men aren't killers other than Wolverine. So no, I don't think Magneto can get his shields up fast enough if the fight starts close up. And unlike the X-Men, Mandarin is a killer-born, something that isn't really quite true even of Wolverine, and isn't remotely true of the X-Men in general. If Mandarin lands a punch with Magneto's shields down, he will put his fist clean though Magneto's head or heart.

As for what he could do to counter Magneto's powers if he does in fact get the shields up, I suppose he could teleport Magneto somewhere, but Magneto may be able to simply open a wormhole and teleport right back. I suppose he could use psionic illusions to trick Magneto in some way, maybe make him think he's already killed Mandarin so he drops his shield. Magneto has an iron-will, but his record of resisting being knocked off balance by psionic attacks isn't nearly as good as his record of resisting being controlled outright.

But really his best bet is that Magneto isn't as quick about putting the shield up as some people seem to think. He also sometimes drops it mid-fight because he's concentrating on something else.




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