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zvelf


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No prep (except where specified). No battlefield removal. No holding back. All characters in classic incarnations. Assume all teams work together. Assume everyone has general knowledge of their opponents' abilities. 1 minute of rest between fights. You get to choose when to implement the following options: Superman can sundip only for 1 round. Wonder Woman can get her sword and armor only for 1 round. Batman can have 24 hours of prep only for himself in the Batcave only against opponents of 1 round. How far does the JLA get?

Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Martian Manhunter, Flash (Barry), Aquaman, Batman vs.

1. X-Villains: Magneto, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Exodus

2. X-Men: Rogue, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine

3. Heralds: Stardust, Terrax the Tamer, Firelord, Air-Walker

4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Angela, Gamora, Groot, Drax the Destroyer

5. Defenders: Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Namor

6. Avengers: Quasar (Wendell), Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers), Gilgamesh, Hercules

7. Avengers: Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Sersi

8. Avengers: Thor (Odinson), Iron Man, Vision, Captain America

9. Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, Mr. Fantastic




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Knight


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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It ends at 7.





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong.
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Bk Ray


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    No prep (except where specified). No battlefield removal. No holding back. All characters in classic incarnations. Assume all teams work together. Assume everyone has general knowledge of their opponents' abilities. 1 minute of rest between fights. You get to choose when to implement the following options: Superman can sundip only for 1 round. Wonder Woman can get her sword and armor only for 1 round. Batman can have 24 hours of prep only for himself in the Batcave only against opponents of 1 round. How far does the JLA get?



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    Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Martian Manhunter, Flash (Barry), Aquaman, Batman vs.



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    1. X-Villains: Magneto, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Exodus


Green Lantern and Wonder Woman shut down Magneto and is around 80% health afterwards.

Manhunter and Aquaman beats down Apocalypse with 50%/50% health.

Flash and Batman take down Exodus. 90%/95%

Superman beats down Juggernaut. 90%.


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    2. X-Men: Rogue, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine


Superman takes down Colossus, Wolverine and Storm. 85%.

Manhunter and Aquaman take down Rogue. 45%/45%.

Everyone else takes a rest.


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    3. Heralds: Stardust, Terrax the Tamer, Firelord, Air-Walker


Manhunter, Flash and Batman take Terrax (30%, 85%, 85%)
Green Lantern beats Air-Walker. GL is at 75%
Wonder Woman takes down Firelord. 75%
Superman and Aquaman take down Stardust (60%, 30%)


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    4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Angela, Gamora, Groot, Drax the Destroyer


Wonder Woman and Aquaman takes Angela 60%, 05%
Manhunter and Batman takes Gamora, 20%, 60%
GL and Flash beat Groot, 45%, 60%
Superman takes Drax 55%


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    5. Defenders: Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Namor


Superman and GL beat Surfer 40%, GL 10%
Flash beats Dr Strange 55%
Aquaman and Wonder Woman take Namor, Aquaman ko'd, WW 55%
Batman and Manhunter take Hulk, MM ko'd, Bats 30%


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    6. Avengers: Quasar (Wendell), Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers), Gilgamesh, Hercules


Superman sundips and Wonder Woman gets her equipment. Everyone else rests. WW is ko'd, Supes is at 85%.

GL at 20%, Batman 40%, Flash 65%


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    7. Avengers: Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Sersi


Batman uses his prep and sets Sentry against Blue Marvel and Hyperion against Sersi. Batgod prep ends.

Superman at 95%, GL at 30%, Flash 75%, Batman 50%


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    8. Avengers: Thor (Odinson), Iron Man, Vision, Captain America


A relatievly fresh Superman ko's Thor pretty easily (no arm). 85%
GL falls to Iron Man (50%)
Flash beats Vision 60%
Cap beats Bats (30%)

Superman beats Iron Man. 80%
Flash beats Cap, 55%


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    9. Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, Mr. Fantastic


Superman and Flash beat the FF.




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Rehzon


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Agree. The JLA will have lost some members during matches 5 and 6.



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zvelf


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 7,903



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    Batman uses his prep and sets Sentry against Blue Marvel and Hyperion against Sersi. Batgod prep ends.



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    Superman at 95%, GL at 30%, Flash 75%, Batman 50%


How is it that the JLA's health increases by 10% over the course of one fight? Also, the JLA will still have to deal with whomever wins between each of these fights. Also, the prep goes against the rules of the gauntlet, which was that all teams will work together.


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      8. Avengers: Thor (Odinson), Iron Man, Vision, Captain America



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    A relatievly fresh Superman ko's Thor pretty easily (no arm). 85%


I noted that "All characters in classic incarnations" meaning that this is not current Thor, but classic Thor with all his abilities.


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    Flash beats Vision 60%


This seems somewhat unlikely. A not terribly healthy Flash either breaks his hand against maximum density Vision or runs right through Vision. Flash shouldn't go from 75 to 60 against Vision because if Vision hits him, then Flash should go down in one shot.



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Bk Ray


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But yeah, you specified Thor Odinson - which 1 armed bandit version.

I also specified that some Leaguers were resting when it was a one sided fight, hence the increase.



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zvelf


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    But yeah, you specified Thor Odinson - which 1 armed bandit version.


The classic Thor is Thor Odinson. The current "Unworthy Thor" is just called "Odinson," not "Thor Odinson." If I just wrote "Thor" alone, it could be misinterpreted as referring to Jane Foster Thor, who currently employs the "Thor" name in the comics. In any case, I clarified at the start that "All characters in classic incarnations."



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Braugi


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Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Martian Manhunter, Flash (Barry), Aquaman, Batman vs.

1. X-Villains: Magneto, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Exodus
Despite the numbers advantage, this is a tough fight, because any of these four are good, even matches for the most powerful on the JLA...I'd probably pick Superman against any except maybe Apocalypse 1 on 1, but they'd be close.

I'm going to have Batman use his prep right off the bat, just to make sure he gets that helmet off Marco's head for an MM victory...I doubt even 'working together' that Exodus is going to actively protect him, and that makes this a less brutal fight and though I think the JLA would win anyway, they won't be anywhere near as beat up after this fight than they would be.

2. X-Men: Rogue, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine

This is a big step back in the difficulty rating...could still be tough with Wolverine being more resilient than they expect, and if Rogue manages to absorb some of their power (I'm assuming classic Rogue, so if there's a different version I'm supposed to use let me know), but while Storm's hurricane can cause severe problems for Batman, the league is just too powerful...I won't go as far as to say they get a rest...with Storm's battlefield control and the possibility of Rogue absorbing powers, its dangerous, but this is a handy win for the JLA

3. Heralds: Stardust, Terrax the Tamer, Firelord, Air-Walker

And then the JLA go back into the fire..OK, Air Walker is powerful but more vulnerable than the others, but the top 3 are really tough to take out...and if Firelord decides to use area effect, multiple JLA members might well go down...I think Superman better use his sundip here, because MM is in trouble with Firelord present, and Aquaman might get pretty dried out too...I still think somebody on the JLA goes down here, so I'll say both Batman and Aquaman due to environmental damage and such, as I think MM gets saved from the Flaming guy buy Superman, and the Sundip gives supes a chance to keep the heralds from doing more damage...without the sundip, I think half the JLA might go down at this point

4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Angela, Gamora, Groot, Drax the Destroyer

OK, Superman, MM, WW, GL, and Flash, but none are at 100%...so the JLA still have numbers...Drax is no longer powerful enough to go toe to toe with the big leaguers, at least for long. Gamora is very skilled, but again, not in the league with the best...though with WW beat up, she could maybe score an upset if it went 1 on 1...I think the JLA's generall bad shape makes this a tough fight, as Angela seems pretty powerful, and while old school Groot lost to the Hulk, I think he's shown enough strength to be a threat to top tiers...the outcome is never in doubt though, but I'll say Flash goes down to Gamora...

5. Defenders: Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Namor
Now we're 4 on 4...Superman, WW, GL, MM vs. Surfer, Strange, Hulk, and Namor...WW wears her armor and gets her sword...I think Namor goes down to any of them at this point, though they're hurt...and hurt, I think they're going to have a very hard time beating Hulk or Surfer, and I think Strange makes it a very bad day...I think the Defenders win it, though fresh, against the whole team, it would go to the JLA.


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makkari1


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    No prep (except where specified). No battlefield removal. No holding back. All characters in classic incarnations. Assume all teams work together. Assume everyone has general knowledge of their opponents' abilities. 1 minute of rest between fights. You get to choose when to implement the following options: Superman can sundip only for 1 round. Wonder Woman can get her sword and armor only for 1 round. Batman can have 24 hours of prep only for himself in the Batcave only against opponents of 1 round. How far does the JLA get?



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    Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern (Hal), Martian Manhunter, Flash (Barry), Aquaman, Batman vs.



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    1. X-Villains: Magneto, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Exodus


Against these 4 villains the JLA have their hands full from the jump. This a tough match up for the JLA. If no BFM the JLA they may lose the first round against classic Juggernaut and his force field. Unless The JLA will have to get that helmet off  otherwise they can't put him down. With Apocalypse and Exodus running the JLA will hard pressed. If MM can mind zap Jugs then they have a shot but lose a team member. Aquaman or Bats will go down here with just a minute rest.


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    2. X-Men: Rogue, Storm, Colossus, Wolverine


This may be the only breather the JLA gets but has the potential to lose as well. If Rogue touches anyone the JLA is lost. They move on from here depending on if Rogue and Storm bring their A game.
  



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    3. Heralds: Stardust, Terrax the Tamer, Firelord, Air-Walker


A very tough fight for the team and with just 1 minute from the last fight this one will take the team to the max. Supes will have to Sundip and WW get her equipment but they lose MM due to Firelord. If the Hearalds take to space the JLA is toast.  



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    4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Angela, Gamora, Groot, Drax the Destroyer

Slight breather but Angela makes them work for it especially WW. Supes can take on the rest of this team alone giving Bats a rest


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    5. Defenders: Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Namor

With just minute from the last the the JLA is starting to feel it. Batman will have to prep to face the Surfer or Dr. Strange. Since this is classic Dr. Strange I don't see the JLA getting past this group even with prep from Batman. If they do by chance get past the Defenders then the JLA will lose Batman and GL.   


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    6. Avengers: Quasar (Wendell), Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers), Gilgamesh, Hercules

At this point the team is spent. With GL gone Superman with have contend with a flying Hercules type in Gil and WW has her hands full with Hercules. Quasar and Carol take out Flash with Supes losing to Gil and WW getting dogpiled. Fights over.



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    7. Avengers: Sentry, Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Sersi

If the JLA gets this far they'll lose at this round. Too much power here for a fresh team. 



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    8. Avengers: Thor (Odinson), Iron Man, Vision, Captain America



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    9. Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thing, Human Torch, Mr. Fantastic





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