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Bk Ray

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I'd love to see:

Batman

Dr Strange

in the opposite universes

Batman, I would hope to actually set up shop as a city level vigilantie. Not as 'Bat-God' in the Marvel Universe. Have him trying to learn about the players, who is good/bad. His tech whilst good, is not as technologically advanced as Stark Industries etc. Dealing with guys like Bullseye, Batroc the Hand, Maggia, Mysterio etc.
Would be good to see him unpick the Hand. Have run ins with Shang Chi, Iron Man, Black Cat etc.


Doctor Strange is a natural fit in Vertigo. Have him stunned as the majority of his powers have disapeared (due to contracts with the Vishanti or calling on beings like Cyttorak). He has his own personal spells and must figure out the strange new rules on dimensonal travel. As well as navigating the differences between the realms of Order and Chaos. He would be fantastic on trying to draw on power from being slike Desire, Dream or Delirium.

Also - who wins Batman vs Dr Strange. 1 month worth of prep?





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BlackGhost


Member Since: Sun Feb 11, 2018


I would really enjoy seeing Doctor Doom in the DC Universe

Doctor Doom is as formidable as they come in the Marvel universe. He has a legitimate shot at taking over the DC universe if he went there.

Victor Von Doom, aka Doctor Doom, is probably the greatest villain in the Marvel Universe. There are few villains who are as interesting as he is- he's not just some evil cliche, trying to take over the world because... reasons, but a multi-faceted character who genuinely believes that he knows what's best for the world and humanity.

Besides being one of the smartest people on the face of the planet, Doom is also a formidable sorcerer and his armor has allowed him to defeat some of the most powerful beings in all of creation, like the Beyonder or the Silver Surfer. While he hasn't been able to conquer the Marvel Universe (well, keep it conquered), how would Doctor Doom against the heroes of the DC Universe? Would he be able to defeat them and rule the world or would they stop him?

It's debatable whether Doom's magical prowess would cross over between universes, but even if it didn't completely, Doom's base of magical knowledge would serve him well in learning even more magic. The magic of the DC Universe is quite different than that of the Marvel Universe- it's more powerful and one of the fundamental forces of creation.
Doom would work to tap into this new source of power and make himself even more dangerous than he was before, which is bad news for all involved. Well, all involved not named Doom.

Doom's armor doesn't get nearly enough credit for just how formidable it is. It's allowed him to go head to head against some of the most powerful superheroes, villains, and cosmic beings in the Marvel Universe and triumph.

On top of all that, Doom's armor is equipped with a device that can drain power from opponents. He's used it against the likes of Silver Surfer, the Beyonder, and even a rogue Watcher to drain their powers and use them. This makes it pretty much entirely Superman proof, as he can just drain away his energy and become ever more powerful.

Doom has done something most villains haven't- he's won. Doom was able to do what none of the heroes were able to do- not only did he save the universe from destruction but he was also able to become a god and recreate what was left in his own image.

Villains winning is very rare in general and few of them have been able to get wins as big as Doom was able to. A lot of it was dependent on Doom's prior knowledge of his universe and taking advantage of that but Doom is a fast learner- given enough time, he could figure out the ins and outs of the DC Universe and use this knowledge against his new foes.
The thing that makes Doctor Doom so dangerous is that he's not just one threat- he's just not an evil super-genius or an armored titan or a powerful sorcerer. He's all of those things and that's just scratching the surface of his threat.

Doom isn't an easy threat to deal with because he keeps changing it up on his opponents. Doom is impossible to predict and he's smarter than just about any of his adversaries. Confronting Doom is also a difficult thing because he's not going to make it easy on anyone who comes up against him. Doom believes wholeheartedly in his own superiority and is always ready to prove it.


I would also enjoy seeing Batman in the Marvel Universe as BK Ray outlined. So many cool encounters that would occur.



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Poltargyst


Member Since: Sat Nov 29, 2008
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Doom has always been my favorite villain.

I read in some editorial once about how you have to give the villains wins in order to give them credibility and show them to be real threats to the heroes. They have done that with Doom.


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BlackGhost


Member Since: Sun Feb 11, 2018


Doom looms above them all as the closest thing to the Platonic ideal of a supervillain that the genre has ever seen.

He has tremendous pride and a firm sense of honor; he hides his face in a mask due to a disfiguring accident in a hubristic experiment; and he hates the leader of the Fantastic Four, the brilliant Reed Richards, because Doom has a bit of an inferiority complex. He’s motivated both by that neurosis and by an almost — almost — altruistic belief that he would rule the world better than anyone else.

That’s it. His gist is both elegant and internally consistent, as well as wholly unique. He isn’t a boilerplate desirer of riches, he isn’t an overcomplicated supernatural being, he isn’t a blindly murderous monster, he isn’t just the resentful rival of a hero. He’s his own thing, and he’s been a perpetual part of the Marvel Comics legendarium for 55 years.

Doom has been ensconced in a bevy of terrific stories over the decades, ones that have demonstrated what makes him work so well as a supervillain. The first and foremost factor is his nobility. I mean that in both a literal and figurative sense: He has a dashing and charismatic regal quality to his personality, but he’s also the actual sovereign of a nation. The latter factor makes him unique in the pantheon of top-tier superhero antagonists, and provides a fascinating twist on the usual archetypes for that canon: He has, in a way, already accomplished his goal of conquering — and, what’s more, he’s quite good at it.

When it comes right down to it, Doom is pretty much the perfect villain. He's a man of undeniably tremendous ability who could easily be the greatest hero of them all if he could get past his own ego and terrible jealousy. He's a man fueled more by his own perceived inadequacies than his abilities and this is what makes him so perfectly evil.

Beyond that, there's all of that ability- his amazing intellect, his powerful magic, and his peerless armor. He's a world leader with a powerful robotic army and he speaks in the third person. He's pretty much everything a villain should be.




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Braugi


Member Since: Fri Jul 14, 2017


but I think I'd like to see Deathstroke and Dr. Doom switch places....I think Doom in DC would be very interesting...he'd be starting without all of his resources, but I'm sure he'd build an impressive power base quickly.

Likewise, I think Deathstroke would be interesting in the MU.

Taskmaster through the late 90's had a very strong track record, and back then, he may well have been REALLY interesting in the DCU as well...training villains etc....if I switched him out, I think I'd swap him with classic Blue Devil as he was during the end of his solo series, because I'd like to see him interact with some classic Spidey villains.


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JesusFan


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


Think Bruce and Tony come to blows, and that they compete for ladies also!

Would like to see Superman and Spiderman switch earths


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JesusFan


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


doom vrs Jla, and Slade tangling with Cap?


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JesusFan


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You just know that Lex will not allow Vic to run roughshod over there!


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JesusFan


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


Doom is the antihero of Marvel, along with Magneto, and would be very interesting for him to tangle with the resident one in DC, Black Adam!


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Poltargyst


Member Since: Sat Nov 29, 2008
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Lex vs. Vic would be an interesting and fun story. I think Vic wins though.


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JesusFan


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Think that Lex would enlist aid of his Injustice Gang here though!


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Braugi


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or some of the X men, and for some reason, Daredevil comes to mind. Yes, a battle between he and Cap would be cool, but I could see him as a major player in the MU based on his strategy, tactics, etc.


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JesusFan


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Just thought would be neat to see 2 suoper soldiers clash, but would be interesting to see if maybe slade became like an other Punisher type in marvel?


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