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https://www.wvpe.org/wvpe-news/2022-03-22/u-s-sen-mike-braun-scotus-should-leave-abortion-interracial-marriage-to-states

I think anyone paying attention for the past few decades would’ve accurately guessed that other civil liberties were on deck to be challenged by the “pro-life” crowd, the same crowd who somehow also doesn’t want the gubment interfering in their lives by telling them they have to suffer gays, woke people, Muslims, etc.

And on cue the same tired “states rights” dog whistle gets trotted out.



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    I think anyone paying attention for the past few decades would’ve accurately guessed that other civil liberties were on deck to be challenged by the “pro-life” crowd, the same crowd who somehow also doesn’t want the gubment interfering in their lives by telling them they have to suffer gays, woke people, Muslims, etc.


And to a large point successfully. I know to me one of the ironies is also that the CRT histaria is a joke. The various laws to one degree or another restrict what can be taught and how from the same groups that were so for keeping up confederate statues that were largely put up without historical goals other than to exonerate the confederate way of life well after the fact in an effort to surpress or exonerate those terrible ideals.

But the actual teaching of history that may make some kids or parents uncomfortable is unacceptable and may make somebody feel uncomfortable.


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    And on cue the same tired “states rights” dog whistle gets trotted out.


Yeah, that is one of the biggest scams there is. It has allowed all sorts of discrimination over the course of US history and is generally the retreat of other ideas.

I suppose not always and some people probably legit believe it but it is not possible to totally separate the two in my mind. And often having the 50 labs of democracy just has a number of states falling into one of two directions and doing little to actually help many problems and passing meaningless rules that do more to impair people you disagree with.

This is hardly unique to a party, but at present the GOP is in control of more states. And if anything the lack of representation in these states will be what prevents any sort of beneficial changes that put the US further behind other countries and just support the racism and inequality that neoliberalism has pushed for decades.






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I'd rather that they tackle the "right to die" issue.

Some states have it where a terminally person that is a resident can be "expedited" or "put down" so that they can go before terminal illness finishes the job.

Most don't have this.




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    I'd rather that they tackle the "right to die" issue.


It is an interesting one for multiple reasons.


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    Some states have it where a terminally person that is a resident can be "expedited" or "put down" so that they can go before terminal illness finishes the job.


I did not realize that it was fully allowed anywhere. I know among the problems is that not many doctors are interested in doing it because it violates their oath and code of ethics to "do no harm".

I am generally in support of the idea, but I think working on it legally will be challenging to just not legalize state sponsored suicide. To say nothing for the political conflicts that will happen and be converted into more outlandish conspiracies.


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"As of 2021, there are just a handful of U.S. states with "right to die" laws. Those states are California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, New Jersey, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington. In these states, it is legal for terminally ill patients to receive lethal medication from their doctors."

This needs to become nationwide, thus giving people the option if they so choose.

It would still be a matter of choice of the patient if they are of sound mind and failing health, or their legal advocate if the patient's mind is no longer sound.

Full confidentiality respected for those that would choose it, no media, etc.




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