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The episode opens in Earth-2, showing us how retro and primitive it is compared to Earth Prime and then comes the oxymoron where it’s technology may look ‘primitive’ but it’s actually highly advanced. Then the twist happens. Dr. Wells is a dad with a beautiful daughter. Not only that but Dr. Wells also created Zoom. There are depths to Earth-2 Dr. Wells I am already liking because on Earth Prime, Dr. Wells created the Flash. This is definately one of the themes running through this episode and it works.

Then in another twist, Earth-2 Linda Park is Dr. Light and a thief. I don’t know why the Flash writers feel the need to depart from the comics because Dr. Light is actually Kimiyo Hoshi and a scientist not a thief. There is a time to depart from the comics in order to make a lame character into a cool one for a live action series and there is also a time where it is not necessary. This is one of those times where it wasn’t necessary. Give me the real Dr. Light please because Linda Park is not her. And I was really hyped for this episode because Dr. Light was in it. And then she turns into a murderer, I don’t care if it was on accident. It was so they could give Linda Park something to do without actually thinking of a good reason for Kimiyo Hoshi to come to Earth Prime. What a disappointment...

And then the romance between Patty and Barry took an unexpected turn. Patty displays just how smart she is by deducing that Barry is blind. In most shows that I have seen, the love interest cannot deduce anything and she is written in a way where she’s clueless about the hero. But not Patty Spivot. The writers gave her some intelligence and I applaud them for doing that. We also get another look into Patty’s past and how she thinks fear holds us back. It’s a rare glimpse into her character and I hope to see more of it. This new stage in Barry’s relationship with Patty cannot last because sooner or later, Patty will find out that Barry is the Flash.

And now everyone knows Cisco is a metahuman and this is for the best. Secrets are not easy to keep, especially when it’s a secret that should have been told a long time ago. I can understand the reasons why Cisco must have been hesitant about telling everyone he was a metahuman but he should have told Team Flash a long time ago. I am not complaining, however, I think it creates interesting tension.

Overall, it wasn't too bad of an episode. We got to see Patty Spivot actually grow a little as a character because of her date with Barry AND deduce he was blind. We got to see a neat parallel between Earth Prime Dr. Wells and Earth-2 Dr. Wells, then Cisco being revealed as a Metahuman....

I feel like I want to say more about this episode but I cannot put it down into words. Perhaps that in of itself speaks volumes on how average this episode was. It wasn't the best of the season, but it easn't the worst of the season either. I suppose the huge disappointment with Dr. Light effected my view of this episode. It just wasn't the character I was hoping to see.

This episode gets a 3 out of 5 stars from me. It was pretty average and not an episode I'd care to watch again.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Zoom might be an android, or maybe either Sisco or Wally West

Dr Wells is very arrogant and smart, and think that he has a hidden agenda in getting Barry to fight Zoom so soon!

Too bad they cannot give jay any meaningful role yet...

Barry still having girl problems, aren't he and Iris destined to get married still?

Another power for Barry, looked a lot like stuff Supes did ub Superman II movie!

Hope they don't make Zoom to be this bad nasty, and end him in one showing!

How about Aquaman showing up, as they gace Atlantis, maybe Paradise island argo City also then?

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Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008

    I feel like I want to say more about this episode but I cannot put it down into words. Perhaps that in of itself speaks volumes on how average this episode was. It wasn't the best of the season, but it easn't the worst of the season either. I suppose the huge disappointment with Dr. Light effected my view of this episode. It just wasn't the character I was hoping to see.

You are being too pessimistic I think, this was the Earth-2 Doctor Light, the Earth-1 Doctor Light if she exists is perfectly possible to turn out to be Kimi, as as we have seen people and characters are not at all identical between the earths.
I confess I enjoyed the episode very much as it unfolded as the character work was as strong as the performances. The reaction to the crew to this Harrison Wells and his arrogance in response was well put over, Wells is clearly a man with secrets but the Flash crew are too colored by their own experiences with Eobard Thawne to be able to properly gauge this doppelganger wearing his face. Jay Garrick on the other hand shares his own emnity with Wells, and it does seem a curious coincidence that this man is so resented on both earths.
Jay's fear of the Mysterious Zoom and the unfolding of his own weakness and procrastination is well written, Earth-2 in so many ways seems a magical place, the ideal place. Fascinatingly put across in terms of the little details we hear of it and of course that spectacular opening cityscape with futuristic monorail and golden light shining down the world of Jay Garrisck seems a wonderous place, totally unprepared for the demonic Zoom and his reign of terror. But what is it Zoom actually wants? Why is he going to such remarkable means to test Earth-1? There is an awful lot being left unsaid here and it does come across as a weakness in the series as this new storyarc is a rather too transparent rehash of Season 1 so far.
Unlike series 1 we are still in the dark about who and what Zoom is, on the face of it he is a one-dimensional supervillain with no past, somehow connected to Wells, and well aware, as Wells is, that there is a Multiverse out there. What then can the audience get ahold of with Zoom when unlike the Reverse-Flash they are not made privy to some secret about him? How does this strange faceless other-Flash matter?
Perhaps the twist in the tale is yet to come, but as yet this series suffers a little due to its repeating of the 1st and its successful plot points.

Things to praise and note:

*An impressive costume design and realisation for Doctor Light makes her eventual death dissapointing to see and a waste of a very good character. Linda Park of Earth-2 is made a victim by the mysterious Zoom, but what power does he have over the people he is sending to test the Flash? Why is Zoom so very dangerous?
It does feel like an awful lot is missing where this character and his scheming is concerned.

*Cisco and his growing confidence in himself is one of the shows finest character-pieces. From insecure junior to learning about himself we have watched as he has grown, this episode he chooses a new nickname for himself and while the logic of that is rather unclear the support he is given from his friends is making this series a fine example of why DC/Warners is now seeing great successes in knocking out these superhero television pieces - just some very professional performances on show and a blend of intrigue and friendship that is absorbing to follow each week.

*Harrison Wells calls is - he is on Earth 1. Clearly the producers and writers are devoted to honouring the comicbook source while doing it in a modern context. Less satisfactory is the revelation that Earth-2 Harrison Wells created The Flash and other meta-humans with the same particle accelerator accident engineered by the covert Eobard Thawne. If you accept the reality that Thawne/Wells was forced to create Barry/Flash as he himself had altered time to make the original cause obsolete then just what did empower Barry with Superspeed in the original timeline? Why is it a Wells Particle Accelerator is needed to create superhumans...? Wouldn't they have come about anyway?

*Wells created Zoom. Jay/Flash fought Zoom for two years. So Zoom is from Earth-2? And created by the PA accident? It all feels rather strained, but we know so little about Zoom and his history it is hard to fully engage with the mystery. Zoom and Wells know there is a Multiverse but if Zoom came into existence at the same time as Jay and the two battle on and off for the two years since then how does Zoom get such a reputation annd how does he know of the Multiverse?
Far too much is being dropped in here...

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