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Knight


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Back when I saw Grant Gustin appear in Arrow for the first time as Barry Allen, I immediately knew he was a major miscast. Wrong look, wrong face, way too skinny, too geeky and the wrong hair/eye color. I still think that today. With one season under his belt and season 2 currently in progress, Grant Gustin still has yet to convince me he was right for the part. Grant looks surprisingly good in the Flash suit, but again...way too skinny. Yes, I know the Flash is a runner and is not a huge guy. But just compare Grant Gustin with Usain Bolt. Grant looks like a toothpick compared to Bolt. THAT'S the build Grant needs to work on.

Matt Barr was one of the top three actors being considered for the role. Looking at him, he has the right look, the right build, even down to the eyes and hair. He would have been perfect! Talk about a major missed opportunity...

What do you think? Are you happy with Grant Gustin or would you have liked Matt Barr instead?





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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While Matt Barr definitely looks a bit muscular in comparison to Grant, there is something to be said about capturing the character and personality.

Remember way back when Keaton was announced as Batman? Many people were essentially going Whiskey Tango Foxtrot about that choice.

Then the movie came out, Keaton had the character of Bruce Wayne down fairly well, and of course NEEDED the suit to be Batman as his physique wasn't quite up to the role compared to some other actors of the time.

Val Kilmer, well his Bruce Wayne was fine but his Batman was bad and don't get me started on Clooney.

Christopher Reeeve, he was a good Clark and good Superman and always will be. We'll just ignore Superman 3 and 4 ;\)


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Knight


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    While Matt Barr definitely looks a bit muscular in comparison to Grant, there is something to be said about capturing the character and personality.


And Grant does a good job, but personality is not everything.


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    Remember way back when Keaton was announced as Batman? Many people were essentially going Whiskey Tango Foxtrot about that choice.


Actually, I don't. I was a kid then and didn't care about casting choices like I do today. But I'll take your word for it since plenty of that is still going on today (Ben Afleck as Batman for example).


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    Then the movie came out, Keaton had the character of Bruce Wayne down fairly well, and of course NEEDED the suit to be Batman as his physique wasn't quite up to the role compared to some other actors of the time.


True, but just because an actor can act the part doesn't mean he's the right fit. Take Val Kilmer for a example. As you said, he played a fine Bruce Wayne but a terrible Batman. This proves right here that Val had the acting chops for Bruce but wasn't the right fit. I can name more actors to drive my point home even further but you get the point.


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    Val Kilmer, well his Bruce Wayne was fine but his Batman was bad and don't get me started on Clooney.


Never saw Batman Forever because of Val. Knew straight away he was wrong for the part.


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    Christopher Reeeve, he was a good Clark and good Superman and always will be. We'll just ignore Superman 3 and 4 ;\)


Christopher Reeve is actually the perfect example of the point I'm trying to make. Even though he was a bit too skinny for my tastes as Superman, the guy physically resembled Superman to me. On top of looking like him, he nailed down the character and personality of not only Clark Kent but Superman as well. Chris was PERFECT for the part because of all those elemenets. It was like Superman just leaped out of the pages of a comic and into real life. And I believe that is why so many fans love Chris, he was simply so perfect for the role.

Grant Gustin? Yeah, he can act the part very well but physically, he looks nothing at all like Barry Allen. When I look at him, I don't think of Barry Allen because in the back of my mind I am always thinking of him as Grant Gustin just playing a part. And because of that, it ruins the immersion. In turn, I don't feel like the Flash is leaping off the pages of a comic and into life.

Despite my misgivings about the questionable casting choice, I do like Grant Gustin. He's a good actor and he's fun to watch in the Flash (all of them are, really).

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. \:\)





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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How about Hugh jackman as Wolverine?

Wolverine is supposed to be 5ft tall and some fans are always quick to forget that Jackman has nailed the character and set the tone for future actors that play the role.


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    Back when I saw Grant Gustin appear in Arrow for the first time as Barry Allen, I immediately knew he was a major miscast. Wrong look, wrong face, way too skinny, too geeky and the wrong hair/eye color. I still think that today. With one season under his belt and season 2 currently in progress, Grant Gustin still has yet to convince me he was right for the part. Grant looks surprisingly good in the Flash suit, but again...way too skinny. Yes, I know the Flash is a runner and is not a huge guy. But just compare Grant Gustin with Usain Bolt. Grant looks like a toothpick compared to Bolt. THAT'S the build Grant needs to work on.



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    Matt Barr was one of the top three actors being considered for the role. Looking at him, he has the right look, the right build, even down to the eyes and hair. He would have been perfect! Talk about a major missed opportunity...



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    What do you think? Are you happy with Grant Gustin or would you have liked Matt Barr instead?


I wouldn't have liked Matt Barr. (I remember him from the Hatfields/McCoys miniseries)

Grant Gustin's Flash is a major geek. He isn't a male bimbo (himbo?)

If Matt Barr was Flash then I couldn't buy the following things.

1. Iris not sleeping with Barry
2. Caitlyn not sleeping with Barry
3. Linda not sleeping with Barry
4. Iris choosing Eddie over Barry
5. Cisco and Barry being friends (or Cisco sleeping with Barry...just kidding)
6. Barry being a scientist
7. Joe and Barry's father/son dynamic

Grant Gustin's goofy charm and not looking like a male model is what makes this Peter Parker-ish iteration of Barry work so well. He's kind of the opposite of Stephen Amell on Arrow.



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