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This guy, which I have been casually watching off and on, has some interesting theories on who is the Man in the Iron Mask.

Here it is: http://thearrowverse.com/manyfacesofdave-the-man-in-the-metal-mask-who-is-he/

If your not willing to watch the 12 minute video, let me repeat, in short, what he said.

Who is the Man in the Iron Mask?

THEORY #1. He is Jay Garrick: But if he is Jay then who's been running around claiming to be Jay? A man named Edward Clariss, who IS known to use a formula to give himself speed in the comics. And that is exactly what the Jay we know has been doing because he has abused V-6 to get speed. That leaves a lingering question: Who is Zoom?

My Thoughts: Very compelling. If this is true then why would Edward lie about being Jay? I like this theory of his because I was thinking the same thing earlier today after watching the episode.

THEORY #2. He is Johnny Chambers AKA Johnny Quick: This one might be stretching things a bit, but it also makes sense if you think about it. In the comics, we know Johnny needs to activate his speed by saying a speed formula so his speed will activate (3X2(9YZ)4A). So, the reason why Zoom has him in that mask is because he doesn't want Johnny to speak the formula and escape. No ability to talk means, he can't say the formula.

My Thoughts: If this is true, then the Jay we know could be the REAL Jay Garrick. I also like this theory because it makes sense why this man would have an iron mask that prevents him from speaking. I never even thought of this one. But, once again, that brings up a question: Who is Zoom?

What do you guys think?


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    My Thoughts: If this is true, then the Jay we know could be the REAL Jay Garrick. I also like this theory because it makes sense why this man would have an iron mask that prevents him from speaking. I never even thought of this one. But, once again, that brings up a question: Who is Zoom?



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    What do you guys think?


Johnny Chambers is a nice idea, but I can't see them springing an unknown on us like that. I did consider Ronnie Raymond, but why Zoom would keep him like this makes no real sense, threrefore I side with the theory that he is the real Jay - the wormhole pulled Zoom and not Jay through to Earth-1 and for whatever reason he somehow adopts the form of Jay... this doesn't make complete sense of course but consider that Zoom presumably had no awareness of The Flash and Earth-1 until the Wormhole opened and you can appreciate how he would want to pause and learn more of this new dimension before confronting The Flash... so undercover he goes, using Jay's form.
I do think Zoom is more/less than he seems, he is hiding something about himself as essentially from what we know his origin is similar to Barry's but his transformation and evolution is so extreme to his and Reverse-Flash's that there is clearly some extra layer to his story. 'Zoom' is the theatrical performance - who is the actor?




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Paste Pot Pete 

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    Johnny Chambers is a nice idea, but I can't see them springing an unknown on us like that. I did consider Ronnie Raymond, but why Zoom would keep him like this makes no real sense, threrefore I side with the theory that he is the real Jay - the wormhole pulled Zoom and not Jay through to Earth-1 and for whatever reason he somehow adopts the form of Jay... this doesn't make complete sense of course but consider that Zoom presumably had no awareness of The Flash and Earth-1 until the Wormhole opened and you can appreciate how he would want to pause and learn more of this new dimension before confronting The Flash... so undercover he goes, using Jay's form.
    I do think Zoom is more/less than he seems, he is hiding something about himself as essentially from what we know his origin is similar to Barry's but his transformation and evolution is so extreme to his and Reverse-Flash's that there is clearly some extra layer to his story. 'Zoom' is the theatrical performance - who is the actor?



I agree, I hope they don't bring some sort of new character into this whole thing because they already have so many characters this season.

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