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Nathan Summers


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Daveym 

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I'm aware that the wise thing to do might be not to comment on this news. After all the disgust of i, and the reported enormous scale, talks for itself. But I seem to recall Gerard Jones has at least one child of his own, who would be in his early 20s by now, and presumably a wife... what went so badly wrong in his life that he descended to this obscene fixation. And how could an obviously intelligent man upload this to You-tube and not believe he would be immediately noticed and traced... but then this sort are hallmarked by their sheer arrogance and absolute conviction they cannot, will not, be found and caught.

Thankfully the diligence of the police has removed him from the streets and further pleasure in exploiting the most vulnerable of all.

Taking this report as granted of course

Yes, perhaps it would be wise not to reply on this topic. But Jones was a notable force in comics in the early 90s, and wrote a considerable amount for Green Lantern in particular. It has not aged well obviously, but how we go bout discussing that era in light of this arrest and probable conviction I do not know. It may be best I think if his work was quietly forgotten, and by a shared consensus allowed to be forgotten.




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MysteryMan




Hated his work.

Hope he is innocent though...hope this kind of thing didn't even exist.


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and that this is a massive frame up.


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Superman's Pal

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I enjoyed his work on Green Lantern and to a lesser extent Guy Gardner (Reborn being the highlight). I didn't really care for his JLA run and I'm not familiar with much else he's done.

I hate when someone whose work I admired turns out to be capable of something like this. I try not to sit in judgment of people but when it's something like this it's impossible not to. I'm all for delete the guy from the history books but it's hard. I actually own some pieces of Green Lantern original art which were written by this guy. Do I have to throw out the fine work of the penciller and inker because this guy was attached to the project?

Disappointing. Innocent until proven guilty, I suppose.


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Daveym 

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It's difficult I agree, but there is a simple ethical principle in question and I think on the whole his work should stay locked up in the 1990s and we move on past it. Is it possible to judge the Work rather than the man, when the crime is this serious and links to what was/is a childrens medium? On consideration I tend to think it best to stay away and avoid anything that might give any praise at all - for instance I was planning on writing to write something looking at his Justice League America run, I was reminded of it last year and how much I felt it was rather underappreciated, after 20 years i found I still have a soft spot for it, so on the one hand I suppose you could write something briefly saying "I really liked that story..." and avoid mentioning 'Gerard Jones' altogether. But then he DID write it, and you are admitting you liked his work there, a lot.

It's a dilemma I would rather not be associated with, and frankly despite his lengthy contribution to Green Lantern history his work, for the most part, wasn't all that brilliant. We shouldn't miss a writer of this very average calibre. So for me the choice is an easy one. Though it is a shame it came to this nevertheless.





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    It's difficult I agree, but there is a simple ethical principle in question and I think on the whole his work should stay locked up in the 1990s and we move on past it. Is it possible to judge the Work rather than the man, when the crime is this serious and links to what was/is a childrens medium? On consideration I tend to think it best to stay away and avoid anything that might give any praise at all - for instance I was planning on writing to write something looking at his Justice League America run, I was reminded of it last year and how much I felt it was rather underappreciated, after 20 years i found I still have a soft spot for it, so on the one hand I suppose you could write something briefly saying "I really liked that story..." and avoid mentioning 'Gerard Jones' altogether. But then he DID write it, and you are admitting you liked his work there, a lot.



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    It's a dilemma I would rather not be associated with, and frankly despite his lengthy contribution to Green Lantern history his work, for the most part, wasn't all that brilliant. We shouldn't miss a writer of this very average calibre. So for me the choice is an easy one. Though it is a shame it came to this nevertheless.


Will pitch in as well. It's clearly a very grey area, and it's easy to say...well maybe he didn't have this problem back then and its ok...something changed him etc etc etc....but its kind of just looking for excuses to let ourselves like something.

It's a very interesting and disturbing question...if a terrible person creates some great masterpiece (not that I really liked his work on GL in this case) is it wrong to admit this? Is it wrong to appreciate it on some level...does it taint us if we do like it?

I think the answer is no, it does not taint us personally...but I do think we should be very aware the source of the material...there are some very disturbed artists of various types throughout history that created great works...sometimes their greatness is due to their..."altered" minds? (not sure that is a strong enough wording to use).

Perhaps I am rambling it's not an easy topic...a very very sick man (If he is found to be guilty) has performed heinous acts that will forever put anything he has touched into a bad light...even what some might consider his "good" works he has put forth into the world. What is the proper healthy response from shocked fans?
Disbelief..denial..anger...acceptance of the news and trying to make sure this never happens again? But we don't have control over all these issues either.

Ok rambling stopped...I think its because I just cant really understand his behavior either. The why of it.


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Dakota


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You could make a similar comparison to the Bill Cosby situation.

All the terrible things he appears to have done doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed watching Fat Albert as a kid, and if I saw an episode of that on TV, I would watch it for nostalgia reasons. I also liked many of his comedy routines and thought that the first 4 or so seasons the The Cosby Show were great.

Doesn't mean that I approve of what he did. If he truly did what he is accused of he should be punished. But I'm not going to hate those older shows because of it.

That's where everyone is different, though.


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